madras Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Burn is definitely a better player than quite a few give him credit for. He’s also a much better LB than plenty do True but I think he is one of the reasons we look disjointed right now. He's a great edge of the box defender but not so great pushing up, made worse by both current CH's being like that meaning we can't press as we'd like as there's a huge gap between midfield and back line that is being exploited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, madras said: True but I think he is one of the reasons we look disjointed right now. He's a great edge of the box defender but not so great pushing up, made worse by both current CH's being like that meaning we can't press as we'd like as there's a huge gap between midfield and back line that is being exploited. Aye, definitely. Botman and Schar are capable and technical defenders - Burn isn’t close to their technical proficiency. Burn will look better when Schar returns. He’s an excellent squad option though - I like having BDB on the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, TBG said: So did we jump the gun when we earmarked him and Tino as England's starting right and left backs for the next 20 years? Not for me and I cheerled that particular view more than most. Both still young lads. Hall esp so. There's absno doubt he, Hall, is a player. Just raw Tino is nearly there. I think to some extent Hall is lucky in that we can't do a Chelsea or a Man City and just spunk wads on every position. Regardless of the unfairness built into the system it, at least, forces us to evolve organically a tad. Hall will get better at the things he needs to get better at. I've no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Do you know how borderline it is between being in the bottom 20% and the top 10% for a centre back? 1 extra pass out of 10. 80.5% pass completion is absolutely decent like, particularly when he's been at fullback most of the time and the average for full backs in 78%. Now do our other defenders... Schar 82% Trippier 75% Botman 90% Livramento 85% Hall 80% Lascelles 85% Krafth 84% Bonus: Guehi 86% Saliba 90% Perhaps the fullback data is skewing. Agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Hall did look really good the back end of last season so he clearly has the capability but he's young & learning his trade so it feels like he's going to naturally have these highs/lows throughout the campaign. He's a fantastically versatile option for us in that he can stick to the line or invert and I think we'll see the big benefits of that throughout the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Winn said: I've said for months he's not good enough. Had potential maybe but he's been terrible if you ask me. Tbh I think he's slow and seems a little lazy. Gives the ball away constantly. Terrible and gives the ball away constantly is a mad one He completed 61 out of 67 passes, some of the ones I recall him not completing were attack minded passes which are riskier but worth doing Defensively he is raw but don't recall any major howler from him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Thought he played well and grew into the game as it went on, inverting akin to Zinchenko in the second half. His comfort on the ball is much needed in this team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I can see the moments when Hall does something a bit careless or too brave and loses the ball, I think those will be concerning Howe more than anything defensive. Probably should be more concerned about everyone else losing the ball who are more experienced. Bruno / Joelinton / Isak were giving it up carelessly again, and in the wrong areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Probably should be more concerned about everyone else losing the ball who are more experienced. Bruno / Joelinton / Isak were giving it up carelessly again, and in the wrong areas. Absolutely, just saying Hall does make a few mistakes. I rate him highly and want him to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 🥳🎉🎂🎈 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) 29 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: 🥳🎉🎂🎈 Hopefully he'll get a pay raise as apparently he's on £7k a week! Seriously? Edit- apparently he's on either £7K week or £50k a week depending on which website you look at... Edited September 8 by Joe1984 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 2 hours ago, Joe1984 said: Edit- apparently he's on either £7K week or £50k a week depending on which website you look at... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater582 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Starting at left back against Austria U21 tonight. It's on Youtube. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 has a playing style of a deep lying playmaker (as compared to other fullbacks). His pass completion rate is comfortably higher than Kelly’s. And he’s much more involved. When he does lose it, it’s more noticeable because (a) he attempts 15% more passes a game so will lose more as a result and (b) a lot of his passing is trying to be progressive and in-field. So when he loses it the opposition is applying pressure straight away. Kelly is more of the hopeful ball down the line back to the opposition fullback. Less dangerous position to lose it. Im team Hall. When he’s good he’s excellent and a dangerous asset in our armoury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Bagged an assist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Bagged an assist. And another. Edited September 9 by GeordieT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SUPERTOON Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Would love for him to be given a proper run in the side for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 (edited) Turned 20 yesterday aswell. Edited September 9 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Definitely needs a run in the side. He's only young so will have the odd slip here and there but it's to be expected of someone young. You've just got to stick with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Scoot said: Definitely needs a run in the side. He's only young so will have the odd slip here and there but it's to be expected of someone young. You've just got to stick with him. Typically when you are given a proper run you start becoming more consistent with time aswell. Edited September 9 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 He’s one of the biggest winners from not signing a CB. he’s only fighting Kelly at LB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 31 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Bagged an assist. Mcatee will be the next Palmer if City let him go. Will be a really good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Some finish by that dude, it must be said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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