Lewis Hall

[madras]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

Burn is definitely a better player than quite a few give him credit for.  He’s also a much better LB than plenty do

True but I think he is one of the reasons we look disjointed right now. He's a great edge of the box defender but not so great pushing up, made worse by both current CH's being like that meaning we can't press as we'd like as there's a huge gap between midfield and back line that is being exploited.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, madras said:

True but I think he is one of the reasons we look disjointed right now. He's a great edge of the box defender but not so great pushing up, made worse by both current CH's being like that meaning we can't press as we'd like as there's a huge gap between midfield and back line that is being exploited.

Aye, definitely.  Botman and Schar are capable and technical defenders - Burn isn’t close to their technical proficiency.  Burn will look better when Schar returns.  
 

He’s an excellent squad option though - I like having BDB on the books. 

[Groundhog63]

1 hour ago, TBG said:

So did we jump the gun when we earmarked him and Tino as England's starting right and left backs for the next 20 years? 

Not for me and I cheerled that particular view more than most. 

Both still young lads. Hall esp so. 

There's absno doubt he, Hall, is a player. Just raw 

Tino is nearly there. 

 

I think to some extent Hall is lucky in that we can't do a Chelsea or a Man City and just spunk wads on every position. Regardless of the unfairness built into the system it, at least, forces us to evolve organically a tad. 

Hall will get better at the things he needs to get better at. I've no doubt. 

[BoSelecta]

7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Do you know how borderline it is between being in the bottom 20% and the top 10% for a centre back? 1 extra pass out of 10. 80.5% pass completion is absolutely decent like, particularly when he's been at fullback most of the time and the average for full backs in 78%. Now do our other defenders...

 

Schar 82%

Trippier 75%

Botman 90%

Livramento 85%

Hall 80%

Lascelles 85%

Krafth 84%

 

Bonus:

 

Guehi 86%

Saliba 90%

Perhaps the fullback data is skewing. Agree to disagree.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Hall did look really good the back end of last season so he clearly has the capability but he's young & learning his trade so it feels like he's going to naturally have these highs/lows throughout the campaign. He's a fantastically versatile option for us in that he can stick to the line or invert and I think we'll see the big benefits of that throughout the season.

[Geordie Ahmed]

1 hour ago, Winn said:

I've said for months he's not good enough.  Had potential maybe but he's been terrible if you ask me.  Tbh I think he's slow and seems a little lazy.  Gives the ball away constantly.  

 

Terrible and gives the ball away constantly is a mad one

 

He completed 61 out of 67 passes, some of the ones I recall him not completing were attack minded passes which are riskier but worth doing

 

Defensively he is raw but don't recall any major howler from him

[Roids]

Thought he played well and grew into the game as it went on, inverting akin to Zinchenko in the second half. His comfort on the ball is much needed in this team. 

[Sibierski]

3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I can see the moments when Hall does something a bit careless or too brave and loses the ball, I think those will be concerning Howe more than anything defensive. 

Probably should be more concerned about everyone else losing the ball who are more experienced. Bruno / Joelinton / Isak were giving it up carelessly again, and in the wrong areas.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

4 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Probably should be more concerned about everyone else losing the ball who are more experienced. Bruno / Joelinton / Isak were giving it up carelessly again, and in the wrong areas.

 

Absolutely, just saying Hall does make a few mistakes. I rate him highly and want him to play.