Novocastrian Posted Saturday at 19:41 Share Posted Saturday at 19:41 2 hours ago, Karjala said: Looks way better than Tino this season, getting better by the week. I genuinely thought Tino had the higher ceiling but this kid is everywhere at the moment. He’s the archetypal modern full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Saturday at 19:50 Share Posted Saturday at 19:50 5 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: I genuinely thought Tino had the higher ceiling but this kid is everywhere at the moment. He’s the archetypal modern full back. To be fair, as good as Hall is going forward, I think Tino isn't far off, but from a defensive stand point. And this is often easier to overlook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted Saturday at 20:02 Share Posted Saturday at 20:02 11 minutes ago, KaKa said: To be fair, as good as Hall is going forward, I think Tino isn't far off, but from a defensive stand point. And this is often easier to overlook. I'm sure I've said before but I think that they're going to be a massively complimentary pairing for us and England long term. Tino offering the defensive steel while Hall goes forward, but neither being a big liability going the other way so they can swap that role from time to time to keep opponents on their toes. The way Hall plays he's going to get the plaudits but I hope it doesn't lead people to think Tino is a disappointment by comparison as he's still on course to be a fantastic player, just in a different mould. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted Saturday at 20:04 Share Posted Saturday at 20:04 22 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: I genuinely thought Tino had the higher ceiling but this kid is everywhere at the moment. He’s the archetypal modern full back. They are just different really. Tino is comfortably better defensively than Hall. Hall better offensively while Tino better defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted Saturday at 20:05 Share Posted Saturday at 20:05 Player of the season for me so far keeping BDB out of the left back position he was a stalwart in last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Saturday at 20:05 Share Posted Saturday at 20:05 (edited) 1 minute ago, Aiston said: They are just different really. Tino is comfortably better defensively than Hall. Hall better offensively while Tino better defensively. I think Tino is stronger and quicker so looks better in races with wingers. But otherwise there’s not much between them defensively IMO. Hall is great in the air, for example. Edited Saturday at 20:06 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Saturday at 20:08 Share Posted Saturday at 20:08 1 minute ago, wormy said: I'm sure I've said before but I think that they're going to be a massively complimentary pairing for us and England long term. Tino offering the defensive steel while Hall goes forward, but neither being a big liability going the other way so they can swap that role from time to time to keep opponents on their toes. The way Hall plays he's going to get the plaudits but I hope it doesn't lead people to think Tino is a disappointment by comparison as he's still on course to be a fantastic player, just in a different mould. Yeah, I agree. Me, I love good defending and good defenders, and so I really like Tino. Got great height, speed, strength and athleticism at full back. He has all the attributes and stamina to be a threat going forward too, and just needs to work on his final ball. There was a point with Trippier where he was giving away so many chances at the far post defensively, and those have all been shut down since Tino came in. He's a beast defensively. I can't really remember the last left winger that really caused us major problems since he came in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted Saturday at 20:28 Share Posted Saturday at 20:28 19 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, I agree. Me, I love good defending and good defenders, and so I really like Tino. Got great height, speed, strength and athleticism at full back. He has all the attributes and stamina to be a threat going forward too, and just needs to work on his final ball. There was a point with Trippier where he was giving away so many chances at the far post defensively, and those have all been shut down since Tino came in. He's a beast defensively. I can't really remember the last left winger that really caused us major problems since he came in. I'm sure I remember Livramento being a real threat down the right hand side for Southampton- bombing down the wing and playing so far forward sometimes he was almost looking like a winger. IIRC there were some Southampton fans commenting that he could be the next Bale when we signed him (or was it an ex teammate making comments to that effect?) Definitely agree he has the tools to develop that side of his game a great deal and really kick on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted Saturday at 21:33 Share Posted Saturday at 21:33 Lewis Hall had the most touches, played the most passes, AND created the most chances for Newcastle in their 4-0 win against Leicester! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Saturday at 21:56 Share Posted Saturday at 21:56 (edited) Not surprising. Caveat, yes Leicester were shit, but he was almost immaculate. For me player of the season so far is between him, Isak, and Burn all for very different reasons. Edited Saturday at 21:56 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted Saturday at 22:03 Share Posted Saturday at 22:03 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted Saturday at 22:05 Share Posted Saturday at 22:05 I just love him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Saturday at 22:11 Share Posted Saturday at 22:11 4 hours ago, Big Geordie said: Should be our and England's left back for the next 15 years. Terrific Football doesn’t work like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted Saturday at 22:13 Share Posted Saturday at 22:13 I haven't been able to catch a replay of the match yet but watching the goals it's so satisfying to watch AG make use of him. It's been a bit frustrating at times seeing him make a good run and get ignored by someone favouring to just cut inside or pass to someone a less threatening position. Hopefully this is the realisation of how far he could go in replacing Trips's attacking contribution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Saturday at 22:26 Share Posted Saturday at 22:26 2 hours ago, KaKa said: To be fair, as good as Hall is going forward, I think Tino isn't far off, but from a defensive stand point. And this is often easier to overlook. Tino almost never gets beaten 1-on-1. Doku did him with a drag back last season, but other than that I can’t really remember him being done. Hall moving forward with the ball is absolute sex though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLC Posted Saturday at 22:34 Share Posted Saturday at 22:34 This guy was absolutely fucking ace today. Bravo Lewis Hall. Love how he never loses his shit either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Saturday at 23:05 Share Posted Saturday at 23:05 Today was a genuinely amazing performance for such a young lad. You can tell how much he's been coached up through elite development systems. Made one run in the inside channel with the ball that very few fullbacks of any level of experience can do . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted Saturday at 23:14 Share Posted Saturday at 23:14 51 minutes ago, wormy said: I haven't been able to catch a replay of the match yet but watching the goals it's so satisfying to watch AG make use of him. It's been a bit frustrating at times seeing him make a good run and get ignored by someone favouring to just cut inside or pass to someone a less threatening position. Hopefully this is the realisation of how far he could go in replacing Trips's attacking contribution. Yea, he and Gordon were really on the same page today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted Sunday at 10:20 Share Posted Sunday at 10:20 He’s absolutely superb and ours and England’s left back for a long, long time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Sunday at 10:22 Share Posted Sunday at 10:22 (edited) Hopefully Hall and Gordon both know that they could form Newcastle and England’s left side for years to come. If they can develop a good relationship then they’ll be sorted. It was nice to see Gordon using Hall on the overlap a couple of times at least. Gordon was very positive in giving the ball to others in general yesterday. Edited Sunday at 10:23 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted Sunday at 10:46 Share Posted Sunday at 10:46 Always backed him, but didnt imagine he would turn into one of my favourite players so quickly. He's just insanely good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted Sunday at 10:50 Share Posted Sunday at 10:50 14 hours ago, Barnes23 said: I'm sure I remember Livramento being a real threat down the right hand side for Southampton- bombing down the wing and playing so far forward sometimes he was almost looking like a winger. IIRC there were some Southampton fans commenting that he could be the next Bale when we signed him (or was it an ex teammate making comments to that effect?) Definitely agree he has the tools to develop that side of his game a great deal and really kick on. Tino was exactly this at Southampton - kind of similar in style to Cafu - Shame he isn’t being provided with that freedom in our set up - it may be because we lack a RCB with pace so he needs to hold his position, and we don’t have an inverted winger meaning he doesn’t have the space to run into Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Sunday at 10:57 Share Posted Sunday at 10:57 15 hours ago, KaKa said: To be fair, as good as Hall is going forward, I think Tino isn't far off, but from a defensive stand point. And this is often easier to overlook. Agree, while I love Hall's willingness to fly down the flanks, I will be interested to see how he does on Wednesday against Brentford. Mbuemo gave him a bit of a torrid time down there, so would like to think he'll be better prepared this time round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted Sunday at 11:33 Share Posted Sunday at 11:33 From highlights, he looked fantastic. That we need from him, if he can get regular assists would be really big for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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