nemtizz Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2:25 is the best angle of Gabriel throwing himself forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The only one I could see where they were coming from was the ‘push’ from Joelinton. But it’s a coming together and then a swan dive from Gabriel. It’s less of a foul watching it back again with all the angles. They were correct to say ‘nothing that warrants him going down like that’ or words to that effect. He just flopped. Mental that so many fans don’t understand the clear and obvious bit, still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I celebrated the decision again like it was live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The superman dive is so him doing it to either win a flick or win a foul. ? So obvious from the down the pitch angle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Watching it like that, reckon it's potentially (probably) offside, but no way of confirming. Other two decisions definitely correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, TheHoob said: It took fucking ages but looking at the process I think they were actually pretty speedy given the amount of things to check Can at least see why it took so long now anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Who the fuck has taken a look at that little scrote and thought "You know what? He'd be a good presenter" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Who the fuck has taken a look at that little scrote and thought "You know what? He'd be a good presenter" Only bloke they could think of who was more universally hated than referees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Can we get footage of Arteta being forced to watch that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Gabriel looks like he's trying to jump to flick the ball out behind him for a corner. The fact he doesn't appeal for the foul suggests that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Absolutely funny as fuck that the Arsenal players only cried about 1 aspect when Arteta was saying it was for every reason possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Yep, can't fault the VAR's 4 minute process and outcome, just like I couldn't fault the on-field ref's 4 second process and outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 54 minutes ago, nemtizz said: 2:25 is the best angle of Gabriel throwing himself forward. There’s also one I’ve seen that was taken from the Gallowgate around lower/mid tier that showed Joelinton did nothing other than basically rest his arms on Gabriel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 56 minutes ago, nemtizz said: 2:25 is the best angle of Gabriel throwing himself forward. Before seeing this I thought we'd gotten away a bit with the foul/push call - but now I see they got that right too, exactly, his fall forward is not from the 'push'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 At about 3.30 in the video, I think the ref says "It's an important goal for both teams, so get it right". Is there a time when a goal isn't important to both teams then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 45 minutes ago, Stifler said: Absolutely funny as fuck that the Arsenal players only cried about 1 aspect when Arteta was saying it was for every reason possible. Gabriel was 100% sure he wasn't fouled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, BonesJones said: At about 3.30 in the video, I think the ref says "It's an important goal for both teams, so get it right". Is there a time when a goal isn't important to both teams then? Darren Bent, Halloween 2010? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, TheHoob said: It took fucking ages but looking at the process I think they were actually pretty speedy given the amount of things to check I think that decision, in terms of accuracy, speed and conscientiousness is possibly the best VAR I've ever seen. You could not ask any more of the people involved. Which is a bad sign because it still made things a shit experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I'd say after listening to the depth they went to, and to cover so much in that time, they did a good job. The thing that Arteta should complain over, is Gabriel. Seems clear now listening, that what has convinced them it's not a foul, is the fact he's flung himself just from the contact from Joelinton. The rest is down to the balls loss in visibility, meaning they can't rule the goal out based on it not being conclusive that Gordon was offside. Glad it's been laid to bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 There were one or two on Arsenal message boards saying exactly that re Gabriel. He threw himself and there wasn't enough contact for a foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I'm not trying to be contrary, I honestly just think it's a huge pile of pedantic crap. Forget Arteta and the obscene amount of discourse over it - all of those issues were clearly borderline at worst and the on-field officials called all of them correctly in an instant... but we have to wait four minutes for the true arbiters to give their permission to crack on with the bloody match. I'm not being critical of the VAR guys themselves; I agree that they implemented their directive for major officiating overkill with total accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I'm not being critical of the VAR guys themselves; I agree that they implemented their directive for major officiating overkill with total accuracy. That's the key, unfortunately. It's a cultural problem. People are actually asking for the game to be like this, whether they realise it or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 And yet the Arsenal supporters and that nonce Mark Goldbridge still crying in the face of incontrovertible evidence the right call was made. There was no solid evidence to overrule the onfield decision therefore it cannot be overruled. What do they want PGMOL to start doing guess work and imparting opinion on decisions? That would last about 5 seconds before that was a "fix". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Arteta never actually got any charge at all from the FA for his meltdown, did he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 If VAR is doing it like that, for all teams and goals. Then it’s working great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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