Newcastle United 1-0 Arsenal (04/11/23) - Post match reaction from p. 46

[nemtizz]

2:25 is the best angle of Gabriel throwing himself forward. 

[Lush Vlad]

The only one I could see where they were coming from was the ‘push’ from Joelinton. But it’s a coming together and then a swan dive from Gabriel. It’s less of a foul watching it back again with all the angles. 
 

They were correct to say ‘nothing that warrants him going down like that’ or words to that effect. He just flopped. 
 

Mental that so many fans don’t understand the clear and obvious bit, still. 

[Beren]

I celebrated the decision again like it was live

[andycap]

The superman dive is so him doing it to either win a flick or win a foul. ? So obvious from the down the pitch angle. 

[Anderson]

Watching it like that, reckon it's potentially (probably) offside, but no way of confirming. Other two decisions definitely correct.

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, TheHoob said:

It took fucking ages but looking at the process I think they were actually pretty speedy given the amount of things to check 

 

Can at least see why it took so long now anyway. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

Who the fuck has taken a look at that little scrote and thought "You know what? He'd be a good presenter" 

[Interpolic]

7 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

Who the fuck has taken a look at that little scrote and thought "You know what? He'd be a good presenter" 

 

Only bloke they could think of who was more universally hated than referees. 

[LiquidAK]

Can we get footage of Arteta being forced to watch that?

[The Prophet]

Gabriel looks like he's trying to jump to flick the ball out behind him for a corner. The fact he doesn't appeal for the foul suggests that too.

[Stifler]

Absolutely funny as fuck that the Arsenal players only cried about 1 aspect when Arteta was saying it was for every reason possible.

[Yorkie]

Yep, can't fault the VAR's 4 minute process and outcome, just like I couldn't fault the on-field ref's 4 second process and outcome. 

[LFEE]

54 minutes ago, nemtizz said:

2:25 is the best angle of Gabriel throwing himself forward. 

There’s also one I’ve seen that was taken from the Gallowgate around lower/mid tier that showed Joelinton did nothing other than basically rest his arms on Gabriel.

[Superior Acuña]

56 minutes ago, nemtizz said:

2:25 is the best angle of Gabriel throwing himself forward. 

 

Before seeing this I thought we'd gotten away a bit with the foul/push call - but now I see they got that right too, exactly, his fall forward is not from the 'push'.

[BonesJones]

At about 3.30 in the video, I think the ref says "It's an important goal for both teams, so get it right".

 

Is there a time when a goal isn't important to both teams then?

[Dr.Spaceman]

45 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Absolutely funny as fuck that the Arsenal players only cried about 1 aspect when Arteta was saying it was for every reason possible.

 

Gabriel was 100% sure he wasn't fouled 

[MrRaspberryJam]

4 minutes ago, BonesJones said:

At about 3.30 in the video, I think the ref says "It's an important goal for both teams, so get it right".

 

Is there a time when a goal isn't important to both teams then?

Darren Bent, Halloween 2010?

[80]

2 hours ago, TheHoob said:

It took fucking ages but looking at the process I think they were actually pretty speedy given the amount of things to check 

I think that decision, in terms of accuracy, speed and conscientiousness is possibly the best VAR I've ever seen. You could not ask any more of the people involved.

 

Which is a bad sign because it still made things a shit experience.

[mighty__mag]

I'd say after listening to the depth they went to, and to cover so much in that time, they did a good job. 

 

The thing that Arteta should complain over, is Gabriel. Seems clear now listening, that what has convinced them it's not a foul, is the fact he's flung himself just from the contact from Joelinton. 

 

The rest is down to the balls loss in visibility, meaning they can't rule the goal out based on it not being conclusive that Gordon was offside.

 

Glad it's been laid to bed.

[madras]

There were one or two on Arsenal message boards saying exactly that re Gabriel. He threw himself and there wasn't enough contact for a foul.

[Yorkie]

I'm not trying to be contrary, I honestly just think it's a huge pile of pedantic crap. Forget Arteta and the obscene amount of discourse over it - all of those issues were clearly borderline at worst and the on-field officials called all of them correctly in an instant... but we have to wait four minutes for the true arbiters to give their permission to crack on with the bloody match. 

 

I'm not being critical of the VAR guys themselves; I agree that they implemented their directive for major officiating overkill with total accuracy.

[80]

8 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I'm not being critical of the VAR guys themselves; I agree that they implemented their directive for major officiating overkill with total accuracy.

That's the key, unfortunately. It's a cultural problem. People are actually asking for the game to be like this, whether they realise it or not.

[Mattoon]

And yet the Arsenal supporters and that nonce Mark Goldbridge still crying in the face of incontrovertible evidence the right call was made.

 

There was no solid evidence to overrule the onfield decision therefore it cannot be overruled. What do they want PGMOL to start doing guess work and imparting opinion on decisions? That would last about 5 seconds before that was a "fix".

[midds]

Arteta never actually got any charge at all from the FA for his meltdown, did he? 

[Kanj]

If VAR is doing it like that, for all teams and goals. Then it’s working great.