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Newcastle United 1-0 Manchester United (02/12/23) | Reaction: Pg. 34 | Goal-post: OP


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28 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Why is ours only up until minute 62 and not minutes 92-98 when we dominated the game? 

Because after that, some of the players who are literally named and numbered on the charts were no longer on the pitch.

 

You want their positions tracked for 30 minutes whilst they're sitting stationary on the bench? Though you could argue for Rashford it wouldn't have changed it much...

 

 

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4 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

First thought when I saw Rashford was going off was "Wait, Rashford was playing?"

 

I had no idea they had a kid called Mainoo playing until well into the second half :lol:

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Out of interest @Froggy, what are the Man United's fans of Ten Haag now? Feels like he's starting to feel the heat, whereas a month ago everyone was still very much behind him. 

 

Feels like he's made some baffling decisions, Rashford continually starting, Martial being played in place of Hoijland. Varane just being ostracized, and a lack of any real fluidity in the way you play, think people are rightfully starting to turn on him.

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5 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

"With this squad? No better than 4th-7th."

 

Ah yes, it's not like people said that our squad was of Championship level until Howe came in and proved them all so wrong.

 

"He's an okay manager, but lets not pretend that all this "improvement" isn't off the back of spending £400m quid. People in the media are acting surprised that Livramento is a good player: he wasn't free."

 

Well, Man United keep spending £80 mill on shite players, so there's that.[emoji38] There's one guy who was actually being smart over there:

 

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I prefer a loser like Howe who got Bournemouth to the premier league from league four and made Newcastle play attractive football with the likes of Joelinton and lacselles than serial winner like Ten Hag who spent 400m on overrated former players he managed. Our fans keep turn their noses up on promising and young managers like Howe and players like Gordon and when we play like **** they are blaming the “structure”

 

 

 

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Ah, I forgot the good old "ugly football" narrative. Sometimes they call our playstyle "Simeone football". Yeah, we've scored 32 and they've scored 16. Literally twice as much, and it was easy to see why yesterday.[emoji38]

 

 

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11 minutes ago, 54 said:

Out of interest @Froggy, what are the Man United's fans of Ten Haag now? Feels like he's starting to feel the heat, whereas a month ago everyone was still very much behind him. 

 

Feels like he's made some baffling decisions, Rashford continually starting, Martial being played in place of Hoijland. Varane just being ostracized, and a lack of any real fluidity in the way you play, think people are rightfully starting to turn on him.

Maybe Southgates double in disguise

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I'm also amazed at how many fans of big clubs that compare our spending to theirs and act like an equal net spending from a formely 19th placed Newcastle should give the same results as an already established top club who spends the same. Nottingham spent the same as us last season, but Cooper was still getting praise for a 14th place finish.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, 54 said:

Out of interest @Froggy, what are the Man United's fans of Ten Haag now? Feels like he's starting to feel the heat, whereas a month ago everyone was still very much behind him. 

 

Feels like he's made some baffling decisions, Rashford continually starting, Martial being played in place of Hoijland. Varane just being ostracized, and a lack of any real fluidity in the way you play, think people are rightfully starting to turn on him.

 

I think his stubbornness and inconsistency will be his downfall.

 

Sancho's effort in training was questioned, and the manager was backed with his decision to remove him from the squad. Same with Ronaldo. However there's a major issue with Rashford continuing to start games and not giving a fuck yet avoiding any sort of punishment. 

 

The Varane one is hard to take as well. It's been kept under wraps but it seems to be a petty argument and our best centre back is rotting on the bench because of it. 

 

People are starting to lose faith, but a managerial change won't make a difference anyway. 

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Just watched the highlights again to jog my memory. Might have been because I was a few pints deep at the time, but I hadn’t realised how dominant we were. Should have been 1 or 2 up at half time. How good were Miley and Tino man. Absolute superstars.

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Some pretty reasonable takes in that thread on Red Cafe IMO.

 

You're always going to get a large percentage of shite takes on any football forum, lots of football fans are absolute morons who don't really understand what they're looking at. We've plenty on here.

 

Lazy to zero in on those takes.

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Madri Ten Hag is awful. I get the club is badly run. But he has to take plenty of the blame. 
 

He has been there a while now and I have no clue what his style is supposed to be? Are they a counter attacking side, direct, possession based, high pressing? They don’t seem to have any discernible style. Looks like 11 strangers on the pitch when I’ve seen them this season. 
 

If he seemed to have a long term plan and the fans and club could tell what it was. Would he not get more slack even though the results are bad? Like I said, I have no idea what he’s trying to build or how he wants his team to play.

 

When he has been backed to go and get his man. He has spent a lot of money and not massively improved the squad. 
 

All outside looking in, of course. Probably wide of the mark with some stuff. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, joeyt said:


The operating structure and culture at that club is rotten. It’s the same at Chelsea, there’s no togetherness, just infighting and, in Man U’s case, a host of overpaid players lacking discipline or any sort of commitment.

 

At least that’s the shite the media circus seems to report on. Oh, and their owners are complete arseholes, which trickles down through the club and into the fanbase, bar @Froggy, who’s sound. O0

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