Geordie Ahmed Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, Joelinton7 said: If we’ve been negotiating with him this long and he still hasn’t made his mind up, especially with the other options being those two then move on. If he wants the easy life of picking up a pay packet in fractured clubs with no direction then he can suit himself. Or we could just wait for him to make a decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Player goes to the club offering the biggest wage shocker, that's never happened before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Beth said: Player goes to the club offering the biggest wage shocker, that's never happened before. Has he joined Chelsea? Must have missed that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) He can afford to take his time and so will probably wait to talk to whichever managers take over at both clubs. As someone mentioned already, missing out on Tosin, likely means some of the summer budget will then need to go towards a centre back. This will likely mean we can't go as big on a right winger. There's been talk of us targeting Olise at his £60 million release clause, but that might be contingent on Tosin coming in on a free. If that doesn't work out, we've been linked a fair bit with Huijsen (centre back) and Soule (right winger) from Juventus, at a cost of around £60 million for both, and so we probably then go down that sort of path. Without the Conference League now, which we would have gone all out for, we can probably afford to go down the road of bringing in high potential younger players as we have done previously, as we are less likely to have as much of a need for more experienced players to come in with a ton more games to play. Think this may also affect the goal keeper position too, with the talk of Trafford being looked at now, instead of a move for Mamardashvili. Comfortable with whichever way this one plays out now we aren't in Europe this year. Edited May 27 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 3 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Has he joined Chelsea? Must have missed that He'll go to whoever offers him the most money. He will have zero affinity to prefer us over Chelsea or Man U, no matter what "vision" he is sold by the club. Money talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 I'd love to see what the alternate reality where Mudryk went to Arsenal instead of Chelsea. How do people think he would have looked there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 24 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: They had a poor season and finished above us. Congrats to them, they spent half a billion and finished 3 points ahead of us. Brute capitalism wins. If he wants to go to a club that has about three managers a season. Replaces you at the drop of a hat with someone more expensive (even if you’re better than them). That has selfish players who prefer individual praise over collective achievement. Take the easy road so he doesn’t have to move house. Chelsea are the biggest underachievers in PL history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Beth said: He'll go to whoever offers him the most money. He will have zero affinity to prefer us over Chelsea or Man U, no matter what "vision" he is sold by the club. Money talks. Players don't always choose the highest offer. He may well go to Chelsea and who knows what his reasons for that actually would be. Just find it strange you've decided he's definitely going there when all he's done at this stage is listen to the offers available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Agents probably trying to spice things up, still think we'll be the destination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 24 minutes ago, Beth said: He'll go to whoever offers him the most money. He will have zero affinity to prefer us over Chelsea or Man U, no matter what "vision" he is sold by the club. Money talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 48 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: Congrats to them, they spent half a billion and finished 3 points ahead of us. Brute capitalism wins. If he wants to go to a club that has about three managers a season. Replaces you at the drop of a hat with someone more expensive (even if you’re better than them). That has selfish players who prefer individual praise over collective achievement. Take the easy road so he doesn’t have to move house. Chelsea are the biggest underachievers in PL history. Most successful English club of the 21st century, having almost ended the 20th century as London’s fourth most successful club. Wouldn’t describe them as underachievers tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 17 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Most successful English club of the 21st century, having almost ended the 20th century as London’s fourth most successful club. Wouldn’t describe them as underachievers tbh I’m talking about this season with the money they’ve spent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: I’m talking about this season with the money they’ve spent They are playing the long game, their transfer strategy is nowhere near as scatter gun as people tend to make out. At the end of this summers window they will have assembled an near entirely new squad over 2 seasons, it’s a massive project. Yes some of those players won’t make it, but they have extreme quality throughout the youngest squad in the league.. if you zoom out a bit you can see that they have every right to believe they will be serious players again in 2/3 seasons time. Being ruthless with managers is nothing new to that club, and it’s never seemed to stop them winning things either. Edited May 27 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Nixon who was the first to release this story is hinting that it's down to Tosin's side angling for more money ie agents and/or signing on fee. We've made our offer and it's now game of poker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 This is just a career for these dudes. One day the babies crying about this kind of transfer not happening will understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Well, looks like Maresca is next. Even Chelsea fans are saying Boehly only wants “yes men”. Hopefully EM is ok with having players bought for him, thus not being able to implement his own systems and having Boehly pull HT stunts in the dressing room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 So he was sold on the vision for the club but then we just waited for other clubs to come in? Not exactly the most decisive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Alan Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 In terms of working around FFP and bidding wars, don't clubs make dodgy offers on the side? Surely we can afford to buy his mam the best island. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: This is just a career for these dudes. One day the babies crying about this kind of transfer not happening will understand. It's not easy to make yourself a free agent, would expect him to take full advantage of it and not make hasty decisions. If that means he's not coming here, it's a shame but we move on and sign someone else, not that big of a deal. Edited May 28 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, Pata said: It's not easy to make yourself a free agent, would expect him to take full advantage of it and not make hasty decisions. If that means he's not coming here, it's a shame but we move on and sign someone else, not that big of a deal. 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 6 hours ago, Dr Jinx said: So he was sold on the vision for the club but then we just waited for other clubs to come in? Not exactly the most decisive. Unless we force his hand to sign the contract, what else can we do ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 It must be fun to be a sought after free agent these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Early Poster of the Year contender here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Early Poster of the Year contender here. I'm just wondering what time are the Police knocking on our doors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 9 hours ago, Beth said: He'll go to whoever offers him the most money. He will have zero affinity to prefer us over Chelsea or Man U, no matter what "vision" he is sold by the club. Money talks. I’m assuming you don’t know anything about Tosin as a person. So you are basically saying that you believe that these cream of the cream, driven and talented young sportsmen—who are all going to have a comfortable life financially because the rewards available in their sport—have no ambition or desire to make a difference, to be needed, and be part of a team in which they feel they can thrive. That nothing matters but the bottomline? Do you honestly think that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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