Paul Mitchell to leave club by mutual consent at end of June (Official)

[Coffee_Johnny]

Can’t say I’m disappointed, or surprised, at the news. Would love to see the real views about him and his views on his role made public. 

[STM]

Perhaps they've done the right thing and despite their differences, Mitchell has agreed to stay until the end of the PSR deadline to get some business done.

 

Ultimately Mitchell still has vast experience at negotiations and working with agents etc. Even if they are not his players, he might be professional enough to actually do his job for a month.

[OpenC]

Remember reading a couple of years ago that our xDoFs 2023-2025 was 2.8 so that's some great data

[et tu brute]

At end of the day the Chairman makes the overall decision and (imo) this would have been discussed and decided after the game on Sunday. Not great that two sporting directors have been and gone in a flash, but, it's also certainly not good if there was major divisions between parties, especially with a massive summer coming up.

[KaKa]

So ...

 

I didn't realise the club Freedman joined in the Saudi second division (which I always thought was weird) is actually PIF owned.

 

Remember there was talk at the time we failed to get him that the financial package wasn't attractive enough.

 

Well ... what if he's already working for us, but is just parked in a random Saudi lower division club, and so can be paid much more by PIF, without it showing on our books!

 

Clever work around? At the very least we can pretty much lean on him as much as we want with him not working for another European club, but an obscure second division club in Saudi.

 

I think we may have been pretty slick here and have been very clever.

 

Also means we avoided paying compo to that twerp at Palace 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 18:25 by KaKa

[bobbydazzla]

Actual secret CCTV footage from inside SJP….

 

Mitchell presents transfer strategy: 

Howe presents feedback to Mitchell:

 

 

Howe speaks to HR:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 18:27 by bobbydazzla

[wyn davies]

11 minutes ago, Skjaere9 said:

This is probably insane but… bring back Staveley as CEO? She seemed very good at setting an overall positive, progressive culture of excellence for the club. Then she and Eddie jointly lead recruitment of a DOF they both feel

comfortable with? 
 

Not sure she’d do it but I honestly think it could be brilliant for the club. 

Apparently she can't comeback , too much baggage .

[The College Dropout]

26 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

All about opinions but think it’s a blow seemed to be doing some great work with these young lads signing and most seemed to be aligned with taking a new approach to transfers after 3 windows because we couldn’t afford to be spending huge sums due to PSR.

 

His PR wasn’t great at the start but if the plan is to spend 100 million plus on Guehi, Mbuemo don’t think many can complain if we end up back at square one with PSR.

 

Whoever replaces him will also keep bringing in young players. 

 

20 minutes ago, Skjaere9 said:

This is probably insane but… bring back Staveley as CEO? She seemed very good at setting an overall positive, progressive culture of excellence for the club. Then she and Eddie jointly lead recruitment of a DOF they both feel

comfortable with? 
 

Not sure she’d do it but I honestly think it could be brilliant for the club. 

She needs a numbers person if so. She’s not that evidently. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

31 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

All about opinions but think it’s a blow seemed to be doing some great work with these young lads signing and most seemed to be aligned with taking a new approach to transfers after 3 windows because we couldn’t afford to be spending huge sums due to PSR.

 

His PR wasn’t great at the start but if the plan is to spend 100 million plus on Guehi, Mbuemo don’t think many can complain if we end up back at square one with PSR.

 

But surely we won’t do that if that’s the consequences? So I don’t get why it’s something we would worry about. 

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, KaKa said:

So ...

 

I didn't realise the club Freedman joined in the Saudi second division (which I always thought was weird) is actually PIF owned.

 

Remember there was talk at the time we failed to get him that the financial package wasn't attractive enough.

 

Well ... what if he's already working for us, but is just parked in a random Saudi lower division club, and so can be paid much more by PIF, without it showing on our books!

 

Clever work around? At the very least we can pretty much lean on him as much as we want with him not working for another European club, but an obscure second division club in Saudi.

 

I think we may have been pretty slick here and have been very clever.

 

Also means we avoided paying compo to that twerp at Palace 

 

 

 

Freedman is also more Howe aligned on transfers. Likes his English football experience but also finds bargains. 

[tarie4]

42 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

All about opinions but think it’s a blow seemed to be doing some great work with these young lads signing and most seemed to be aligned with taking a new approach to transfers after 3 windows because we couldn’t afford to be spending huge sums due to PSR.

 

His PR wasn’t great at the start but if the plan is to spend 100 million plus on Guehi, Mbuemo don’t think many can complain if we end up back at square one with PSR.

 

That's the thing, though, right? This new transfer strategy might flop. It's still a gamble paying 30/40 million for Akliouche or Ben Seghir instead of 60 for Mbuemo.

 

Getting Bruno and Botman for 30-40 million worked, but back then we weren't fighting for top 4. Now we are, so we need more seasoned players. Isak sees Mbuemo and Guehi arriving, sees we're improving and serious. It boosts the whole club. With them, we're confident about Champions League next season.

 

We need Premier League experience now, since we're basically two signings away from a solid starting XI. Mbuemo on the right wing and Guehi at right center-back.

 

Making it to the round of 16 or quarterfinals, and then finishing in the top 5 again? That should be good enough for PSR.

[Jesse Pinkman]

Watched the Geordie Journo’s video on this and they state this has been cooking for a long time and it was a matter of when rather than if. Seem to be rumours amongst journalists for months that he was ruffling too many feathers and not a great fit. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 19:05 by Jesse Pinkman

[JT24]

So what does tomorrow bring?

 

New CEO or stadium update? Hedge your bets. 

[JT24]

1 minute ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

Watched the Geordie Journo’s video on this and they state this has been cooking for a long time and it was a matter of when rather than if. Seem to be rumours amongst journalists for months that he was ruffling too many feathers and not a great fit. 

Who are the Geordie Journos?

[rgk_lfc]

4 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

Michael Edwards ultimately stepped away from Liverpool after disagreements with Klopp.

 

The club ended up bringing him back, as they thought the recruitment suffered once he left (see Darwin Nunez for £80 million as the main example) which was part of the reason Klopp then stepped down.

 

Edwards is now the main man over there and runs the whole show as not even the DOF now but the CEO.

Klopp wanted Gotze, Edwards pushed for Mane. Klopp wanted Brandt, Edwards pushed for Salah. Klopp has been effusive in praising Edwards and his role in securing those two and other signings.

 

The disagreement between Edwards and Klopp was over contract extensions to Henderson and Gini. Klopp won one of those battle. Edwards won the other. In public there has been no animosity between Klopp and Edwards. 

Julian Wards took over after Edwards and he was definitely overruled with Klopp influence and our recruitment suffered. There is no way Klopp stepped down due to that. He had too much credit in the bank. My impression is that both Klopp and Edwards stepped away as they were burned out and needed a break.
 

Edwards is not the CEO by the way. Billy Hogan is the CEO. Edwards is the chief executive of Football operations. 

 

Mitchell and Ashworth are solid pros and great appointments. The big difference between Edwards and them is that Edwards rarely goes in front of the press and seeks the spotlight. I highly doubt half of you can identify Edwards in a group photo of random people.
 

There is a big element of self promotion going on with Mitchell and Ashworth which does not work well with the managers. The transfer committee led by Edwards was an object of ridicule for a long time in the English press with even Rodger’s briefing against it. Edwards did not use the press. He shut up and did his job. 
 

I don’t think I have seen a single photo of Edwards with the PL trophy or the celebrations even though he has been the single most important reason why we have been so successful. Everything started from him. 

 

[Holloway]

I see the baldies are kicking off again 

[Whitley mag]

32 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

But surely we won’t do that if that’s the consequences? So I don’t get why it’s something we would worry about. 

You’d think so but did they not want to pay 50 million plus for Guehi last summer and it was acknowledged that it would have needed a big sale to balance for PSR ? If we believe Mitchell he went along with the strategy already in place last summer, before declaring it not fit for purpose.

 

Where going to find out what the strategy is pretty soon and if I was betting man I’d wager it’ll be PL experience with a premium price tag to boot.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 19:12 by Whitley mag

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, rgk_lfc said:

Klopp wanted Gotze, Edwards pushed for Mane. Klopp wanted Brandt, Edwards pushed for Salah. Klopp has been effusive in praising Edwards and his role in securing those two and other signings.

 

The disagreement between Edwards and Klopp was over contract extensions to Henderson and Gini. Klopp won one of those battle. Edwards won the other. In public there has been no animosity between Klopp and Edwards. 

Julian Wards took over after Edwards and he was definitely overruled with Klopp influence and our recruitment suffered. There is no way Klopp stepped down due to that. He had too much credit in the bank. My impression is that both Klopp and Edwards stepped away as they were burned out and needed a break.
 

Edwards is not the CEO by the way. Billy Hogan is the CEO. Edwards is the chief executive of Football operations. 

 

Mitchell and Ashworth are solid pros and great appointments. The big difference between Edwards and them is that Edwards rarely goes in front of the press and seeks the spotlight. I highly doubt half of you can identify Edwards in a group photo of random people.
 

There is a big element of self promotion going on with Mitchell and Ashworth which does not work well with the managers. The transfer committee led by Edwards was an object of ridicule for a long time in the English press with even Rodger’s briefing against it. Edwards did not use the press. He shut up and did his job. 
 

I don’t think I have seen a single photo of Edwards with the PL trophy or the celebrations even though he has been the single most important reason why we have been so successful. Everything started from him. 

 

Goatse really would have stretched defenses tbf.

[Whitley mag]

5 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

That's the thing, though, right? This new transfer strategy might flop. It's still a gamble paying 30/40 million for Akliouche or Ben Seghir instead of 60 for Mbuemo.

 

Getting Bruno and Botman for 30-40 million worked, but back then we weren't fighting for top 4. Now we are, so we need more seasoned players. Isak sees Mbuemo and Guehi arriving, sees we're improving and serious. It boosts the whole club. With them, we're confident about Champions League next season.

 

We need Premier League experience now, since we're basically two signings away from a solid starting XI. Mbuemo on the right wing and Guehi at right center-back.

 

Making it to the round of 16 or quarterfinals, and then finishing in the top 5 again? That should be good enough for PSR.

What about a keeper, forward and midfielder to cope with all these extra games next season ?

[Danh1]

Shame it didn’t work out, shame we didn’t get to see how the bloke operates. I said in the winter that I was looking forward to seeing Mitchell’s appointment result in us shopping abroad instead of in England.
 

Ultimately though if it has been a power struggle, Howe was always going to win, and rightly so given what he’s achieved. 
 

Hope we can pick up a couple of Bruno/Botman type signings. Very exciting summer if so. 

[duo]

50 minutes ago, KaKa said:

So ...

 

I didn't realise the club Freedman joined in the Saudi second division (which I always thought was weird) is actually PIF owned.

 

Remember there was talk at the time we failed to get him that the financial package wasn't attractive enough.

 

Well ... what if he's already working for us, but is just parked in a random Saudi lower division club, and so can be paid much more by PIF, without it showing on our books!

 

Clever work around? At the very least we can pretty much lean on him as much as we want with him not working for another European club, but an obscure second division club in Saudi.

 

I think we may have been pretty slick here and have been very clever.

 

Also means we avoided paying compo to that twerp at Palace 

 

 

 

Proxy SD

[Bunk Moreland]

7 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

Klopp wanted Gotze, Edwards pushed for Mane. Klopp wanted Brandt, Edwards pushed for Salah. Klopp has been effusive in praising Edwards and his role in securing those two and other signings.

 

The disagreement between Edwards and Klopp was over contract extensions to Henderson and Gini. Klopp won one of those battle. Edwards won the other. In public there has been no animosity between Klopp and Edwards. 

Julian Wards took over after Edwards and he was definitely overruled with Klopp influence and our recruitment suffered. There is no way Klopp stepped down due to that. He had too much credit in the bank. My impression is that both Klopp and Edwards stepped away as they were burned out and needed a break.
 

Edwards is not the CEO by the way. Billy Hogan is the CEO. Edwards is the chief executive of Football operations. 

 

Mitchell and Ashworth are solid pros and great appointments. The big difference between Edwards and them is that Edwards rarely goes in front of the press and seeks the spotlight. I highly doubt half of you can identify Edwards in a group photo of random people.
 

There is a big element of self promotion going on with Mitchell and Ashworth which does not work well with the managers. The transfer committee led by Edwards was an object of ridicule for a long time in the English press with even Rodger’s briefing against it. Edwards did not use the press. He shut up and did his job. 
 

I don’t think I have seen a single photo of Edwards with the PL trophy or the celebrations even though he has been the single most important reason why we have been so successful. Everything started from him. 

 

 

Interesting insight, and looking at Edwards's career he appears to have worked his way up at Liverpool (after stints as an analyst at Portsmouth and Spurs) rather than come in as a 'big name'. I wonder if we'll go for someone with a bit less profile like him this time around.

[Kid Icarus]

Just thought, I wonder if this was what the embargo was about the other week. Pre-Arsenal I think.

[KaKa]

10 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

Klopp wanted Gotze, Edwards pushed for Mane. Klopp wanted Brandt, Edwards pushed for Salah. Klopp has been effusive in praising Edwards and his role in securing those two and other signings.

 

The disagreement between Edwards and Klopp was over contract extensions to Henderson and Gini. Klopp won one of those battle. Edwards won the other. In public there has been no animosity between Klopp and Edwards. 

Julian Wards took over after Edwards and he was definitely overruled with Klopp influence and our recruitment suffered. There is no way Klopp stepped down due to that. He had too much credit in the bank. My impression is that both Klopp and Edwards stepped away as they were burned out and needed a break.
 

Edwards is not the CEO by the way. Billy Hogan is the CEO. Edwards is the chief executive of Football operations. 

 

Mitchell and Ashworth are solid pros and great appointments. The big difference between Edwards and them is that Edwards rarely goes in front of the press and seeks the spotlight. I highly doubt half of you can identify Edwards in a group photo of random people.
 

There is a big element of self promotion going on with Mitchell and Ashworth which does not work well with the managers. The transfer committee led by Edwards was an object of ridicule for a long time in the English press with even Rodger’s briefing against it. Edwards did not use the press. He shut up and did his job. 
 

I don’t think I have seen a single photo of Edwards with the PL trophy or the celebrations even though he has been the single most important reason why we have been so successful. Everything started from him. 

 

 

Gotcha 

 

I think Edwards is the very very best.

 

Think you lot are going to be a huge headache now he is fully in charge of your football operations.

 

Especially now he has his own hand picked manager that is fully aligned with him, and who has already won the league right off the bat, prior to getting any meaningful signings in.

 

It's going to be a nightmare.

[Jesse Pinkman]

13 minutes ago, JT24 said:

Who are the Geordie Journos?

Journalists who have a YouTube channel. Think Craig Hope with 10% of the ego. 
 

Video in question