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2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Palace and Parish are famous for this, it's not them who are unprofessional if you bank the house on their word. 

 

If you would be so kind as to show me some previous examples of them doing that, just for clarity. As I sometimes see that said but I've never really noticed it before. I don't take too much notice of a club like Palace's transfers to be fair, just the names of the players.

 

Obviously, if there is some that'll be fair enough.

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


I wish you had any evidence for this. 

 

Even if there is a change in the organisation and a difference in approaches, they’re both professionals and I would hope it’ll be resolved and come up with a joint shortlist for the future. That’s how most clubs work.  

They’ve had two months to come up with something, anything that isn’t Will Osula & Marc Guehi 

 

Can’t even sell one of our many keepers 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


It’s always been the top priority since the takeover? 

Absolutely, look at this squad for the Wolves game just before the takeover, can't you see RW was the absolute priority that needed solving:

 

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Just now, 54 said:

Absolutely, look at this squad for the Wolves game just before the takeover, can't you see RW was the absolute priority that needed solving:

 

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It just doesn’t make sense to me that people expect every problem to have been sorted. I don’t think any squad in the league has no weaknesses, except maybe Man City. 
 

We were in diabolical shape. 
 

Of course we should improve every year and it’s a shame if we don’t. 

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4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Not very long in transfer planning. The plans for this window would’ve been in place well before Mitchell arrived, I would imagine. 

So that plan consisted of what? Marc Gueh? I’m not blaming Mitchell. Whoever’s plan it was it has failed 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

 

If the measure of progress is based solely on how we've done it via the market only, which is seemingly your definition, then no we probably haven't.

 

If the measure of progress is, 'is the squad is stronger than it was last year?' then my argument is it is. 

 

Both can't be true. 

They're not two seperate statements. The transfer window has been poor and we're weaker.

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3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


It just doesn’t make sense to me that people expect every problem to have been sorted. I don’t think any squad in the league has no weaknesses, except maybe Man City. 
 

We were in diabolical shape. 
 

Of course we should improve every year and it’s a shame if we don’t. 


We’ve been told constantly all summer the club identified 2 positions to strengthen CH & RW. They’ve strengthened neither. It’s nothing short of failure of the clubs own supposed plans 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


I’d be more confident of Howe staying than Mitchell if it was one or the other who was chopped in near future due to tensions. Howe effectively would need to be languishing mid table to be under threat, as owners not stupid IMO and know how much backing Howe has and that goes a long way to keeping eyes off ownership. 

Pleased you are. Yes we've a decent start, but the performances have been shocking. Howe is great and has built a lot of goodwill, but it will be this season that shows whether he can truly hack being a manager of a team that has ambitions to be in Europe every season.

 

He's retained a lot of support (mine included), but can see it running out quickly if we're not comfortably top 7 by Jan

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2 minutes ago, gdm said:


We’ve been told constantly all summer the club identified 2 positions to strengthen CH & RW. They’ve strengthened neither. It’s nothing short of failure of the clubs own supposed plans 

 

 

 


I agree, I wasn’t arguing that it’s a good window. Clearly it isn’t (at the moment). 

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1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I get the impression (and yes I’ve asked again) that this STILL isn’t over by the way 🙄.  I asked if we’ve pulled out / if it’s over, and was just told “no”.

 

Its all part of the brinksmanship I think, although I do think we’ll have other irons in fires too.

 

Wouldn't be the biggest shock to see a compromise reached tomorrow.

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If the club were to come out and say hey, supporters, we know teams need fresh blood, but we have a unified belief that we’re in a really good position and it’s far better in this day in age to make the right signings vs just any signings and we truly thought we were after the right ones — so don’t take this as stagnation, take it as a step in a well considered plan forward that we all agree with. We’ll, I’m not sure I’d 100% buy it, but you could at least say okay, well, let’s go ahead and prove it on the pitch. Not sure we’ll get anything like that, though. 

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2 minutes ago, B-more Mag said:

If the club were to come out and say hey, supporters, we know teams need fresh blood, but we have a unified belief that we’re in a really good position and it’s far better in this day in age to make the right signings vs just any signings and we truly thought we were after the right ones — so don’t take this as stagnation, take it as a step in a well considered plan forward that we all agree with. We’ll, I’m not sure I’d 100% buy it, but you could at least say okay, well, let’s go ahead and prove it on the pitch. Not sure we’ll get anything like that, though. 

 

With Amanda gone we won't get anything, Eales will probably speak in November or something 

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10 minutes ago, B-more Mag said:

If the club were to come out and say hey, supporters, we know teams need fresh blood, but we have a unified belief that we’re in a really good position and it’s far better in this day in age to make the right signings vs just any signings and we truly thought we were after the right ones — so don’t take this as stagnation, take it as a step in a well considered plan forward that we all agree with. We’ll, I’m not sure I’d 100% buy it, but you could at least say okay, well, let’s go ahead and prove it on the pitch. Not sure we’ll get anything like that, though. 

 

I wouldn't say we're necessarily owed that explanation but if that is the case then I would absolutely accept it. In fact I'd actually admire it and it would fire me up no end when it comes to hoping for a good season. I love the team we've got already.

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23 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


I wish you had any evidence for this. 

 

Even if there is a change in the organisation and a difference in approaches, they’re both professionals and I would hope it’ll be resolved and come up with a joint shortlist for the future. That’s how most clubs work.  

I don’t think it’s a secret that Howe likes to have a lot of control over things. I also think it was made pretty clear by him at the time that the Mitchell appointment wasn’t welcome news.
 

It would be very weird for us to pursue a defender for that much money (and who we’re unlikely to be able to attract after this window IMO) and not have a back up in mind in case the deal didn’t come off. If that’s what happens then we can only assume the direction is being given by the manager.

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3 minutes ago, christ said:

I don’t think it’s a secret that Howe likes to have a lot of control over things. I also think it was made pretty clear by him at the time that the Mitchell appointment wasn’t welcome news.
 

It would be very weird for us to pursue a defender for that much money (and who we’re unlikely to be able to attract after this window IMO) and not have a back up in mind in case the deal didn’t come off. If that’s what happens then we can only assume the direction is being given by the manager.

Can we?

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