Antipode23 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 The problem is, if we bring the young guys in, we might play badly and lose. ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 12 hours ago, Kimbo said: Obertan was better. Absolutely. Said this a few months ago and got pelters when he finally managed to trap the ball one game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, Antipode23 said: The problem is, if we bring the young guys in, we might play badly and lose. ... That'll do them the world of good, chucking them in at the deep end... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 The two things you can't coach, pace, and a brain. The punchline writes itself, we've been mugged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Holmesy said: This. He was a really good player at Forest in a system that suited him. This is Eddie all over at present - there is only one system, EVER. There is no attempt to build around the strengths of the players we have. Could it have been foreseen that Elanga has rubber feet and no brain? Who knows, but you work with what you have and try to create conditions where they can thrive and succeed regardless. This guy has got no chance under Eddie and I do have some sympathy for him. This is really where I'm at right now, unfortunately. There's too many players not performing and the manager has to figure things out to get more out of them. There doesn't seem to be any specific plan out there. Howe has spoken of a fluid system, but these players aren't good enough to have that kind of freedom. The wingers are suffering the most as they're all pretty one dimensional in different ways, but aren't being positioned to capitalise on their srengths. A better tactical approach would improve the team significantly, even with the set of players we're watching at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipode23 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: That'll do them the world of good, chucking them in at the deep end... About as much good as never playing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Elanga actually wants to play for Newcastle. Which, as of this time, is his only redeeming quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 34 minutes ago, J7 said: He was awful yesterday, but I have less of an issue with that than the cowardly Barnes performance. Or Murphy for their second. Effort is the bare minimum we can expect and it’s not something I would criticise Elanga for. Yeah, the only thing I would say about Elanga is didn't go hiding yesterday unlike Barnes and quite a few others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 minutes ago, Antipode23 said: About as much good as never playing them. There's definitely something in between the two though. I think Phil Foden is a good example of how to slowly integrate a young player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Felt for him yesterday he really was trying too hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 39 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Give Park a few games, he’s supposed to be doing well for the reserves and we ain’t got much to play for this season anyway. Had a dream last night he scored a 25 yard winner in final game at SJP for a 1-0 relegation prevention. Clearly bollocks as we kept a clean sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Irredeemable, comparisons to Obertan are fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Obertan was at least cheap. This utter clown came at a premium price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I am a big critic of Elanga, and think he's been incredibly terrible. But its not worth selling him at a huge loss, given his age, quite yet. As said above, I'd sell Gordon and Murphy and try to get 2 replacements in. Keep Elanga and Barnes as backup and pray they stop being chod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 18/04/2026 at 12:23, Myleftboot said: Whoever sold us him for 55 mil played a blinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Hoping he has a good run of form at the World Cup to build his confidence. He’s been stuck in his own head all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 He's clearly better than what he's shown since he's been here, mentally he must be a mess. Just end the season and let everyone forget about it TBH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 07/06/2025 at 08:27, KaKa said: It's the exact same points being mentioned again too. All pace. Just a transition player. His fbref passing is poor. Too expensive. Not good enough for where we need to get to etc. If he joins we'll soon see. Think we've seen this now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 19/04/2026 at 15:39, J7 said: He was awful yesterday, but I have less of an issue with that than the cowardly Barnes performance. Or Murphy for their second. Effort is the bare minimum we can expect and it’s not something I would criticise Elanga for. How was he cowardly like ? He tried but fuck all came off for him, the full back had his measure. So much of this ridiculous patter surfacing on here in the face of defeat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 19/04/2026 at 11:48, Dr.Spaceman said: There's definitely something in between the two though. I think Phil Foden is a good example of how to slowly integrate a young player. Easy to integrate in a great team when the game is won in 20mins over the years and can hand out 30+mins comfortably per game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Think we've seen this now. I don't think Elanga is all pace at all, if anything I think he gets too much criticism when he doesn't play with all pace. When I watched his highlights before he joined I thought he was good off both feet and his decision-making was pretty good too. I didn't get the impression his game was just knock and run at all. I mean, he scored a great goal for Sweden with his left foot the other week. This is why I suspect we were trying to add more technical ability to our squad and not 'just' sign athletes. Although he is very quick he was meant to be a technical upgrade on Murphy. Ramsey, Woltemade and Thiaw are also technically pretty sound. Edited April 20 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: He's clearly better than what he's shown since he's been here Bloody hope so , that said his ball control (or the lack of it) is absolutely shocking. Some of the worst I have seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Looks like a different player on this. I feel like he just struggled to adapt to the move, mostly psychological probably. Of course Forest were playing explicitly counterattacking football, but still. Edited April 20 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 As if Elanga took free-kicks for Forest, man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 His replacements for Forest haven't been great like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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