Anthony Elanga

[Superior Acuña]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Looks like a different player on this. I feel like he just struggled to adapt to the move, mostly psychological probably. 

 

Of course Forest were playing explicitly counterattacking football, but still. 

 

 

 

 

 

Him and Wood just banging them in together  there's some mystic stuff going on here with Forest/Newcastle players.

[KaKa]

3 hours ago, Shearergol said:

 

Think we've seen this now.

 

Yeah, so it seems so far. But should he really be looking this far off what he produced at Forest? There doesn't seem to be any plan to accommodate him in a team that is different from his former one.

 

Elanga

Gordon

Barnes

Woltemade

Tonali

 

I've gotten to the point I am very concerned with what Howe is able to get out of what feels like the majority of the players. And particularly the ones I've mentioned just above.

 

It shouldn't be as bad as it is. The more I watch the less I understand what the team is supposed to be trying to do when they have the ball. I don't see anything that is trying to exploit the strengths of the players.

 

At this point as much as I would like to see Howe turn it around, I'm not at all confident it will happen, as he isn't really trying different things tactically. Not sure he'll be brought back if the rest of the games go as badly as I think they might.

 

There's just too many players that a lot of money was spent on that aren't performing well enough, and it's going to be a lot harder getting rid of them and replacing them, than it will be trying to find a manager that can get more out of the players.

[Shearergol]

17 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Yeah, so it seems so far. But should he really be looking this far off what he produced at Forest? There doesn't seem to be any plan to accommodate him in a team that is different from his former one.

 

Elanga

Gordon

Barnes

Woltemade

Tonali

 

I've gotten to the point I am very concerned with what Howe is able to get out of what feels like the majority of the players. And particularly the ones I've mentioned just above.

 

It shouldn't be as bad as it is. The more I watch the less I understand what the team is supposed to be trying to do when they have the ball. I don't see anything that is trying to exploit the strengths of the players.

 

At this point as much as I would like to see Howe turn it around, I'm not at all confident it will happen, as he isn't really trying different things tactically. Not sure he'll be brought back if the rest of the games go as badly as I think they might.

 

There's just too many players that a lot of money was spent on that aren't performing well enough, and it's going to be a lot harder getting rid of them and replacing them, than it will be trying to find a manager that can get more out of the players.

I’d be astonished if a manager gets anything out of Elanga without changing to a low block counter attacking team tbh. 

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

I’d be astonished if a manager gets anything out of Elanga without changing to a low block counter attacking team tbh. 

 

Maybe you're right, but I'm not fully convinced yet.

 

What I do know right now is that I hate the way the current team is setup, and there's too many players not performing well enough currently.

[Ronaldo]

6 hours ago, Shearergol said:

I’d be astonished if a manager gets anything out of Elanga without changing to a low block counter attacking team tbh. 

We shouldn’t have spent £55m on him then. Absolutely brainless signing.

[Zero]

1 hour ago, Ronaldo said:

We shouldn’t have spent £55m on him then. Absolutely brainless signing.

 

What I don’t understand is why Eddie firmly believed that he is the one, for long, which basically everyone here would trust Eddie won’t fuck this deal up. 

[Yorkie]

Him being only 22 and already producing really good numbers in the PL probably had something to do with it. Stylistically he hasn't looked suitable but I don't think the logic was a million miles away, as was the case with Wissa. Not arguing with the results, like, the latter especially has been an absolute disaster and one of the top three reasons for why we've had such a bad season. Elanga has been mostly terrible but also thrown in the odd performance where you see why he was so useful for Forest.

 

The happy clapper in me still hopes we might get something out of both but appreciate it's getting less and less likely. We probably won't have a choice but to keep trying cos their respective values will have absolutely plummeted.

[Froggy]

2 hours ago, Zero said:

 

What I don’t understand is why Eddie firmly believed that he is the one, for long, which basically everyone here would trust Eddie won’t fuck this deal up. 

 

Great attitude, top lad, physically very fit and fast. Isn't he a quintessential Eddie Howe signing?

[DevonGeordie]

11 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

Maybe you're right, but I'm not fully convinced yet.

 

What I do know right now is that I hate the way the current team is setup, and there's too many players not performing well enough currently.

And the teams that play like that aren’t going to want to pay anything like what we spent on him, so can see him having another season with us with similar performances and then heading to a newly promoted side for £10-15 million. 

[r0cafella]

14 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Great attitude, top lad, physically very fit and fast. Isn't he a quintessential Eddie Howe signing?

Given he's been chasing him for years and we paid 55m for him it's difficult to argue against this. 

[Kid Icarus]

Until this season you could count on one hand the number of Newcastle players and signings that Howe hasn't got a tune out of. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I firmly believe he just struggled with the move and his confidence is shot. He's still pretty young. Shame we have a summer of World Cup but it would good to get him with a sports psychologist regularly for a couple of months. 

[Zero]

18 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Great attitude, top lad, physically very fit and fast. Isn't he a quintessential Eddie Howe signing?

 

Thats what I think as well, and he still really fucked this up.

 

Athlete - Elanga - fucked up

Technician - Wolt - dropped and fucked

 

Athletic technician - too expensive, out of our reach

 

Ah man.

[SUPERTOON]

I can’t believe how slow he looks either tbh.

[La Parka]

14 hours ago, Superior Acuña said:

Him and Wood just banging them in together  there's some mystic stuff going on here with Forest/Newcastle players.

Murphy and Isak all over again 

[TheBrownBottle]

4 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Until this season you could count on one hand the number of Newcastle players and signings that Howe hasn't got a tune out of. 

I’d argue you could count them on one finger (Targett - the permanent version). 

[The College Dropout]

19 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I don't think Elanga is all pace at all, if anything I think he gets too much criticism when he doesn't play with all pace. 

 

When I watched his highlights before he joined I thought he was good off both feet and his decision-making was pretty good too. I didn't get the impression his game was just knock and run at all. I mean, he scored a great goal for Sweden with his left foot the other week.

 

This is why I suspect we were trying to add more technical ability to our squad and not 'just' sign athletes. Although he is very quick he was meant to be a technical upgrade on Murphy. Ramsey, Woltemade and Thiaw are also technically pretty sound. 

 

 

 

Those are highlights. We’ve seen flashes of great play for us. 
 

Also seen a lot of miscontrolled balls. 
 

It was obvious from game 1. This is not a player. 

[Novocastrian]

I was never convinced about Elanga, even at £30-35m.

 

However, I was quite content when he came in as I thought his ‘more explosive’ style would suit us better than a more technical winger who slows the game down.

 

That was predicated on the assumption he could control a football though.

 

 

Edited April 21 by Novocastrian

[The College Dropout]

8 hours ago, Zero said:

 

What I don’t understand is why Eddie firmly believed that he is the one, for long, which basically everyone here would trust Eddie won’t fuck this deal up. 

The entire summer transfer business and this season’s approach has made me question how Eddie views the game.  
 

I always thought the profile was wrong.  
 

Nevermins ability or lack thereof

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Those are highlights. We’ve seen flashes of great play for us. 
 

Also seen a lot of miscontrolled balls. 
 

It was obvious from game 1. This is not a player. 

 

I don't really buy this, Elanga is never going to produce that highlight reel the way he's playing now, yet he is capable of it.

 

IMO he's struggled to handled the move and is making far more mistakes than before due to hesitance and low confidence. As well as the generally non-functioning team I guess. 

 

He's by no means world class but he should be doing a lot better than he is now.

 

 

Edited April 21 by AyeDubbleYoo

[TRon]

52 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I don't really buy this, Elanga is never going to produce that highlight reel the way he's playing now, yet he is capable of it.

 

IMO he's struggled to handled the move and is making far more mistakes than before due to hesitance and low confidence. As well as the generally non-functioning team I guess. 

 

He's by no means world class but he should be doing a lot better than he is now.

 

 

 

 

 

I've said for some time that a big club is the wrong stage for a player who suffers from confidence issues. Noticeably failed at Man U as well.

 

How does a player with low confidence get past it when his every move comes under the microscope of a fanatical fanbase like Newcastle?

 

I just can't see it. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

7 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I've said for some time that a big club is the wrong stage for a player who suffers from confidence issues. Noticeably failed at Man U as well.

 

How does a player with low confidence get past it when his every move comes under the microscope of a fanatical fanbase like Newcastle?

 

I just can't see it. 

Yeah good question, we have to hope he can but we’ll see. I can’t see him leaving so personally I would just play him for the rest of the season. 

[Holloway]

Fwiw I don't think he's a complete write off at this point, I just think he needs some specific one on one training to see if he can step up. When you watch him, everything is 100mph and it fucks with his feet eye brain coordination,he's overthinking and his body rushes everything. He needs to be taught to calm the fuck down and relearn the basics 

[The College Dropout]

3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I don't really buy this, Elanga is never going to produce that highlight reel the way he's playing now, yet he is capable of it.

 

IMO he's struggled to handled the move and is making far more mistakes than before due to hesitance and low confidence. As well as the generally non-functioning team I guess. 

 

He's by no means world class but he should be doing a lot better than he is now.

 

 

 

Elanga has abilities. Once he gets going on can beat a man, decent off both feet, quick.  But he’s never a player. His touch is too bad. His general control of the football is too bad. 
 

Same way Murphy is just not a player that’s the same for Elanga.  Both have genuine abilities.  But still m… neither have ever been a player a day in their life. 

[OverThere]

Fast but shite. Poor control, poor crossing... unless we go back to low block and counter an absolute waste of money.

 

 

Edited April 21 by OverThere