Chicken Dancer Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3/10 and that’s probably being generous. It’ll be a real sliding doors moment I reckon - we had a chance to really kick on and we ended up blowing a lot of money on a bunch of players that don’t move the needle at all. Was always going to be difficult to replace Isak mind, but you’d expect a lot more from £250m than what we’ve got so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 What bums me out the most is that we sold Isak. Our golden goose for a massive (reasonable for his talent) amount. It doesn't happen often. Our Grealish/Rice/Caicedo moment. Once in a life time sale generating enough funds to work with PSR that we could really push on into the next 'phase'. Signed a handful of ineffective players. You love to see it. Proper fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Looking worse and worse as the season has gone on. Still almost totally reliant on a core group of players to turn up every week and stay injury free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It's the norm though isn't it ? When clubs make a huge sale they often buy several players who don't really have that much of an impact .Thinking when Spurs sold Bale for example or as mentioned above what have West Ham done with the Rice money ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Despite Thiaw being one of the signings of the season, Ramsey growing into the midfield and giving it some much needed balance, along with the two forwards getting 13 G/A between them, there hasn't been a single positive to take from the summer. Personally, I blame the Howes and wish Mitchell had kicked them both to death. Edited January 18 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 9 hours ago, Keggy_Keagal said: It's the norm though isn't it ? When clubs make a huge sale they often buy several players who don't really have that much of an impact .Thinking when Spurs sold Bale for example or as mentioned above what have West Ham done with the Rice money ? Spurs in the five seasons before Bale’s sale: 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th Spurs in the five seasons after Bale’s sale: 6th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd (They reached the European Cup Final the year after, as well as finishing 3rd again) I reckon Spurs clearly spent their windfalls pretty wisely. West Ham shouldn’t even be part of the conversation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Spurs in the five seasons before Bale’s sale: 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th Spurs in the five seasons after Bale’s sale: 6th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd (They reached the European Cup Final the year after, as well as finishing 3rd again) I reckon Spurs clearly spent their windfalls pretty wisely. West Ham shouldn’t even be part of the conversation Correlation ≠ causation tbf, their incomings with the Bale money were pretty terrible aside from Eriksen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Correlation ≠ causation tbf, their incomings with the Bale money were pretty terrible aside from Eriksen. Soldado was shite, certainly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 02/09/2025 at 08:20, r0cafella said: Window is a 6. We've filled holes in our squad which is a plus but I'm not convinced by some of the players for the fees paid for them. The handling of the Isak situation was also poor imo but it's been discussed to death so no need to tread it here. As we are about half way through the season I wanted to come back and reasses my rating for the summer window. I gave it a six when the window closed, if I could so it again is probably bump it down to a 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Even Thiaw and Woltemade who started well have fallen off now. Wissa, Elanga and Ramsey look like misses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I mean, the Lee Bowyer summer might have been worse but this is pretty much up there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Go and get the Rate our Summer Transfer 2025 thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 5/10. This and Woltemade are good, I know Woltemade has not scored for a few games, but he’s been in and out of a side who are creating fuck all. Wasted money on Wissa, Elanga, Ramsey, and Ramsdale. Funny that the safe Premier League options have been the poorest signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 goal involvements in 1606 Prem minutes between Ramsey, Elanga & Wissa is not ideal in the slightest after 23 games. Thaiw a bigger goal threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Our goal threat across the squad is absolutely abysmal I’d say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Skeletor said: Even Thiaw and Woltemade who started well have fallen off now. Wissa, Elanga and Ramsey look like misses. Ramsey looks a very good buy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Thaiw and Ramsey - good buys. The other 170m looks like a complete waste from what I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearljam10 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Sibierski said: 2 goal involvements in 1606 Prem minutes between Ramsey, Elanga & Wissa is not ideal in the slightest after 23 games. Thaiw a bigger goal threat. Thats Wirtz Isak level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 The fact we’re desperate for an effective RW option and we’ve got Elanga sat there with £55m tied up in him is bloody awful mind. For that money, we should have been buying instant impact. The Isak situation allows for some mitigation on the two forwards we’ve signed on the hoof but Elanga has killed us with his ineffectiveness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It’s crazy to think we’ve gone from having hit after hit, to possibly blowing £220m. The repercussions could be long lasting, it’s probably a big black mark against Howe for the owners and may take years to fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_cowell141 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Minhosa said: The fact we’re desperate for an effective RW option and we’ve got Elanga sat there with £55m tied up in him is bloody awful mind. For that money, we should have been buying instant impact. The Isak situation allows for some mitigation on the two forwards we’ve signed on the hoof but Elanga has killed us with his ineffectiveness. This. The money we spent on Ramsey should be returning much more, too. You don't spend over £40m on a player to be a slight upgrade on Longstaff. We're crying out for creativity and guile. Not runners. Edited January 25 by p_cowell141 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 22 minutes ago, Kimbo said: It’s crazy to think we’ve gone from having hit after hit, to possibly blowing £220m. The repercussions could be long lasting, it’s probably a big black mark against Howe for the owners and may take years to fix. With respect, I think it's crazy to be talking about us blowing £220m at this stage. We bought two 23 year olds and two 24 year olds. These are players who have a lot of a room for growth and only one of them got a full pre-season with us before getting thrown in to two games per week football. It also doesn't take into account that we've been here before with Eddie Howe - there is a steep learning cover to his system and players can take 6-12 months before we start to see the best from them. It probably won't be until this next year until we truly can judge this past transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, stozo said: With respect, I think it's crazy to be talking about us blowing £220m at this stage. We bought two 23 year olds and two 24 year olds. These are players who have a lot of a room for growth and only one of them got a full pre-season with us before getting thrown in to two games per week football. It also doesn't take into account that we've been here before with Eddie Howe - there is a steep learning cover to his system and players can take 6-12 months before we start to see the best from them. It probably won't be until this next year until we truly can judge this past transfer window. I just don’t think the ability is there with Elanga, he doesn’t have much technical ability or smarts. Ramsey has more ability but seems completely ineffective away from the centre circle. I don’t have much hope for those two. Woltemade has ability but I have no idea what the plan is with him, he doesn’t fit our team at all. It’s strange to spend so much on a player that is such a different profile and not make any changes to fit them in. I think Wissa has been unlucky with his injury, it seems to have taken some athleticism away from him. I hope it’s not permanent because he’s not really got the technical ability to make up for it. Thiaw I have no problem with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) Would be an interesting choice if we were given the option of selling ALL of the summer buys back to their previous clubs for the exact same fee or NONE of them and keep them to see how they develop here. Purely from a commercial level we’d be looking at losses on them all bar Thiaw and possibly Woltemade given his standing back in Germany. But any profit realised on Thiaw would be quickly eroded (and then some) by Elanga. In this hypothetical scenario, I’d flog them all and take my chances we could find a decent centre half to replace Thiaw. Edited January 25 by Minhosa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Overall, it’s proven to be disappointing on the whole. Thiaw has exceeded all expectations but we’ll need to do a bit of wheeling and dealing this summer to get back on track. Think we’ll move Woltemade on and recoup our money. Ramsey still has potential to come good. Wissa, we knew was a mid-table forward. Bought to do a job, mainly as a backup striker in more usual circumstances. Paid over the odds but we needed to do it. Still think we’ll get decent value from him when all is said and done. Elanga is the main problem. But he’s still better than Osula who we nearly got £28m for so we should have a chance at clawing back at least half his fee if we do sell. Maybe the time has come for the Saudi Pro-league to step in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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