Chelsea 2-1 Newcastle United (27/10/24)

[toontownman]

Just now, Mikky said:

He’s a 2 in a 4231 - a hugely talented player - Eddie hasn’t got a freakin clue what to do with him - says more about Eddie than Tonali

And maybe our previous set up and who signed him. Maybe it wasn't Eddie.

[The Bonk]

1 minute ago, Tsunami said:

Trying to take a step away, we’ve over achieved so far and FFP has us tied up in knots. Our squad isn’t deep enough and we have players in our best 11 who really shouldn’t be there.

 

It’s hard to accept but there we are.

There’s a few players who got us here whom hit their peak the last two years. We have not done well in replacing them. Schar, who is nowhere near his best today in particular stood out. Burn was nowhere near Jackson for the goal, but he had a better overall game than Fabs.
 

We need another CB to play with Botman when he returns and to pray his injury hasn’t ruined him. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

3 minutes ago, east stander said:

Fuck off back to Sheffield Osula if you think laughing and smiling with Palmer trying to get his shirt is acceptable straight after a defeat

 

Brutal, the last has played about 10 minutes for us and sees us as nothing more than a job.

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, Elma said:

Isak not squaring it to Big Joe was poor, but the loss of possession on their winner was just as bad.

 

He's been really poor (not the only one) this season. He's arguably cost us four points in the last two games

 

He's been dealing with injuries and so his form has been inconsistent and he's had some awful moments, as he hasn't been sharp.

 

The real story is not having any reliable and trusted alternative so he isn't thrown back in straight away to play full matches.

 

Going into the season thinking we could rely on Callum Wilson again was a joke that gets less and less funny with each game.

[KennyUtd]

How, for the love of God, can you play football all week, for most of your life, and still be unable to kick a fkn ball properly? Step up Nick Pope. It needs examining by experts. 

[Big Geordie]

I thought we did OK today, against a team that is allowed to have vastly more resources than we are allowed to. I feared the worst after the first goal, but we dug in, competed and really - Cole Palmer (best player on the pitch) was the difference between the two sides. Thought Big Joe did better and we more involved when he went to outside left.

 

I feel dispirited a wee bit, but not down. Clearly there are issues that need sorting out with this side after a really poor summer. January will be key.

 

PSR is working as it should though - Big 6 will be happy as they've managed to disable us, since the takeover and really stall our development.

[Parsley]

8 minutes ago, Dandy Man said:

Tonali is a bit of an enigma for me, want to love him and he seems capable of doing it all but still feels like he might be causing more problems than he's solving 

I thought he was tidy on the ball but was confused by his positioning - looked very central and left a gaping pocket for Palmer to ghost into. 

[Dandy Man]

4 minutes ago, Mikky said:

He’s a 2 in a 4231 - a hugely talented player - Eddie hasn’t got a freakin clue what to do with him - says more about Eddie than Tonali

Still think a player of his quality and skill set should be able to adapt to a different role and make more of an impact than he has thus far. Too early to make much judgement either way really, just bit underwhelmed, appreciate it's difficult for anyone to look great in this team currently 

[Danh1]

7 minutes ago, east stander said:

Fuck off back to Sheffield Osula if you think laughing and smiling with Palmer trying to get his shirt is acceptable straight after a defeat

 

Why would he give a fuck? Insulted by playing 2 minutes if he’s lucky. Never had a run in the team.

 

 

[M1tche]

2 mistakes from Schar, and also 2 mental moments from Isak. Get rid of any one of those and it's a draw. 

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

I thought we did OK today, against a team that is allowed to have vastly more resources than we are allowed to. I feared the worst after the first goal, but we dug in, competed and really - Cole Palmer (best player on the pitch) was the difference between the two sides. Thought Big Joe did better and we more involved when he went to outside left.

 

I feel dispirited a wee bit, but not down. Clearly there are issues that need sorting out with this side after a really poor summer. January will be key.

 

PSR is working as it should though - Big 6 will be happy as they've managed to disable us, since the takeover and really stall our development.

 

PSR is doing a great job for the cartel mind. Not only is it stopping us from improving, it makes it more likely those clubs can poach our better players as they get disillusioned by not being able to challenge for the top 4.

[ChrisMcQuillan]

I'd speak, but after the last match, I'm quite sure no one wants to hear from me.

[SUPERTOON]

Struggle to see any positives tbh, just more of the same and the same glaring issues not being dealt with. 

[alexf]

Chronic lack of pace at the back outside of Tino is always our biggest weakness. Especially as Bruno can't make up any ground so he's essentially pointless being the deepest midfielder. 

 

Both goals came about due to lack of mobility. Schar getting no where near the ball and Burn not able to cover in the center for the first. 

 

The 2nd, Schar too scared to commit so just backed off to eternity. Both so soft. 

 

That doesn't mention the complete lack of attacking cohesion generally though apart from the goal which was mainly down to Tino coming inside and offering something different, we didn't look threatening at all.

 

Not sure Gordon would have changed much. But Barnes was anonymous as fuck. Hardly took his chance to prove he should be starting.

[Beren]

1 minute ago, M1tche said:

2 mistakes from Schar, and also 2 mental moments from Isak. Get rid of any one of those and it's a draw. 

 

I completely agree with this in one way, but in another way it feels like very similar commentary has been applicable for the last 10 games in a row (Emphasis on "feels" before a smartarse says owt)

[Pata]

Decent performance away against a decent team, got done by individual errors and Palmer. We easily could’ve got something out of that. Only Man City can go there and be in complete control all match.

 

Feel bad for Howe, backlash is unwarranted after that performance. He was once again let down by his players.

 

 

Edited October 27, 2024 by Pata

[Beren]

Commentators were incredibly patronising but nothing new there.

[Superior Acuña]

Really hope we win on Wednesday, I’m finding it hard to get excited about this league season - but I’m all in on the cup hope 

[M1tche]

4 minutes ago, Beren said:

 

I completely agree with this in one way, but in another way it feels like very similar commentary has been applicable for the last 10 games in a row (Emphasis on "feels" before a smartarse says owt)

I also think we were crap today btw, way too lose in possession, slow in transition, with nowhere near enough runners. We have a low block CB+DM, 2 high press 8's, high press wide men and a sometimes high press 9. 

 

We're stuck between systems, and it shows. We either need to go 4-2-3-1 or change the personal to suit 1 way of playing. Some hard decisions to be made

[Displayname]

Felt like a game with two poor sides this. Our defense are making easy mistakes and our attackers seems like they are trying to fuck a girl with a soft dick. Getting close, but its never going to get in.

[Kid Icarus]

Good in spells, sloppy in others, punished but could and maybe should have had a point. Thought the ref was absolutely shocking and the Bruno non-decision set the tone (particularly as they scored not long after) for the afternoon.

 

Pope: 5.5

Livramento: 5

Schär: 4.5

Burn: 7

Hall: 6.5

Bruno: 7

Tonali: 6

Joelinton: 6.5

Barnes: 5

Isak: 6

Almiron: 5.5

[hazeyb]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Burn: 7

 

I'd knock at least 2 marks off that for his jog back to cover for the first goal. 

[Ginola14]

 positives

 

we didn't get a drubbing as I feared we might at the start 

 

a narrow defeat doesn't feel nearly as bad (for me at least)

 

good goal from open play 

 

we didn't crumble after their goals and on another day might have got something, at one of the most difficult away grounds tbf

 

we get to have another go at these on Wednesday, and we're at home 

 

other results good ( imagine the meltdowns on MU/Spurs forums)

 

negatives 

 

another defeat 

 

poor away form continues

 

some poor performances and sloppy play all over 

 

fucking Chelsea win again 

 

very little on the bench to make a difference 

 

Gordon injured 

 

 

[huss9]

49 minutes ago, Sempiternal said:

Im going to need Eddie to realize Dan burn can’t head a ball 

fine when defending as just needs to clear it.

he's shit when having to direct them.

think he mentioned when he fist signed that he needed to improve his attacking headers and get more goals.

he's failed.

[TRon]

1 minute ago, huss9 said:

fine when defending as just needs to clear it.

he's shit when having to direct them.

think he mentioned when he fist signed that he needed to improve his attacking headers and get more goals.

he's failed.

 

 

Yep. Because of his height, all he has to do is get his head on the ball to defend the box. But the loopy headers are useless at set pieces.