McDog Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: League Cup win = European qualification 😉 Does it? I thought just the FA Cup. I retract everything, sign me up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 1 minute ago, McDog said: Does it? I thought just the FA Cup. I retract everything, sign me up. It does indeed - the FA screwed the Football League over many years ago with the creation of the PL, but they haven’t ruined them by taking a European place away from the League Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: It does indeed - the FA screwed the Football League over many years ago with the creation of the PL, but they haven’t ruined them by taking a European place away from the League Cup That sheds a different light on what I thought. Thank you for the education and hope all is well in Aussie land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Wouldn’t be surprised if we won. Not sure Id make many changes aside from playing Kelly and maybe Miley in. Be daft to go wholesale especially when one of Liverpool or Brighton and Spurs or City are going out plus Chelsea hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 It is very simplistic - I know, but I'd be inclined to have Palmer Man Marked in a 4-1-3-2 kind of formation with our "1" basically following him everywhere in this game. Ideally, our 1 would probably be Sean Longstaff, purely for his athleticism and I think giving him this role would see him "free" of other expectancies around his game and almost tailoring it to what I think Longstaff can be comfortable with. Defend, track, retrieve and lay it off short tk your ball players and carriers in Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton in a slightly more advanced position. Sit slightly deeper and do an almost half-court-press from basketball where they cannot utilise pace to catch us out. Hit them on the break with Isak and ideally Gordon and occasionally Tonali/Joelinton breaking through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, McDog said: That sheds a different light on what I thought. Thank you for the education and hope all is well in Aussie land. Cheers mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, Heron said: It is very simplistic - I know, but I'd be inclined to have Palmer Man Marked in a 4-1-3-2 kind of formation with our "1" basically following him everywhere in this game. Ideally, our 1 would probably be Sean Longstaff, purely for his athleticism and I think giving him this role would see him "free" of other expectancies around his game and almost tailoring it to what I think Longstaff can be comfortable with. Defend, track, retrieve and lay it off short tk your ball players and carriers in Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton in a slightly more advanced position. Sit slightly deeper and do an almost half-court-press from basketball where they cannot utilise pace to catch us out. Hit them on the break with Isak and ideally Gordon and occasionally Tonali/Joelinton breaking through. I’d not be surprised if Palmer doesn’t play but I’d not be against it. Marking him at all would be an improvement on recent games against this lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, Heron said: It is very simplistic - I know, but I'd be inclined to have Palmer Man Marked in a 4-1-3-2 kind of formation with our "1" basically following him everywhere in this game. Ideally, our 1 would probably be Sean Longstaff, purely for his athleticism and I think giving him this role would see him "free" of other expectancies around his game and almost tailoring it to what I think Longstaff can be comfortable with. Defend, track, retrieve and lay it off short tk your ball players and carriers in Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton in a slightly more advanced position. Sit slightly deeper and do an almost half-court-press from basketball where they cannot utilise pace to catch us out. Hit them on the break with Isak and ideally Gordon and occasionally Tonali/Joelinton breaking through. I think we have to sit deeper if we are going to continue with Burn and Schar as the CBs. Then hopefully hit the likes of Isak and Barnes for the counters. I doubt it will work out that successfully in reality, but with the players we have, surely makes the most sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 (edited) Just feel aside from him today they posed nothing of real concern. I also think, if we do something slightly different and it works - it might crucify Chelsea somewhat as other teams might 'suss' them out. I don't feel they're any great shakes at present beyond Palmer. It may be something that then works whenever we come up against any side with a decent 10 that drops in the pockets. We certainly don't want Schar and Burn pressing into midfield with no cover like today (and Brighton). Edited October 27 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Really hope this week is the week that ignites our season. 2 home games, where there's zero excuses for both the fans and players not fully at it. Win both, and it should be the kick start we need. Reminds everyone we can compete, and setting the bar for rest of season. Two defeats, and it's going to be a shite winter, which is compounded in December by getting Man City away in the FA Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 We’ll win this, you massive fannies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I really hope we identify the issues from yesterday's game. It was way too easy for them to play a straight pass into either Palmer or Jackson, who were then able to turn easily and be straight at our back 4. Palmer in particular was being man-marked by Bruno in one phase and then Schar in the next, which was either a really bad plan or just executed terribly. Would rather we just stuck one player on him (either Longstaff or Tonali). Longstaff in particular is good at that role and has done it against the likes of Maddison very effectively in the past. Chelsea are still not a good team imo - especially defensively. We can beat them at St. James' with some tweaks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 3 minutes ago, Smal said: I really hope we identify the issues from yesterday's game. It was way too easy for them to play a straight pass into either Palmer or Jackson, who were then able to turn easily and be straight at our back 4. Palmer in particular was being man-marked by Bruno in one phase and then Schar in the next, which was either a really bad plan or just executed terribly. Would rather we just stuck one player on him (either Longstaff or Tonali). Longstaff in particular is good at that role and has done it against the likes of Maddison very effectively in the past. Chelsea are still not a good team imo - especially defensively. We can beat them at St. James' with some tweaks. Let’s see some tweaks then 👍🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) Palmer is ridiculously difficult to stop mind. He moves around constantly and he attacks from all three channels - left, right and centre. His first touch and awareness are incredible and he only needs half a yard to play a killer pass. Even if you sit deep he might easily curl a goal from outside the box We looked unprepared for handling him, I admit, but I don't have the answer on me either. I think part of our issue is that Chelsea had arrogance/confidence to play direct passes that other teams wouldn't even attempt, because they have a couple of players that can collect the ball in almost any position. Edited October 28 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Assuming they'll make quite a few changes, yet still bring in plenty of quality players, most of which have been signed in the last few years because they can basically do as they please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) Yeah, they probably have triple the number of PL players that we do. It's silly. We don't even have enough to make a team and they've got two full squads Edited October 28 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 A nice distraction from our relegation fight........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 I'd be tempted to start Willock. See if it helps him starting a game instead of coming on for a change. Because he's had little to no impact off the bench recently. Seems scared to open up his legs, or perhaps he can't anymore? Either way perhaps be good to have Joelinton as an impact sub instead possibly. It's true though there is very little we can adjust personnel wise. Whereas they could put out a whole fresh 11 and likely still be competitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 I just wish for a proper home cup tie atmosphere and players having a real go at it. It's fucking Chelsea at home. Forget Sunday. Get a rousing win here and we can carry that into Saturday. HOWAY THE LADS!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, alexf said: I'd be tempted to start Willock. See if it helps him starting a game instead of coming on for a change. Because he's had little to no impact off the bench recently. Seems scared to open up his legs, or perhaps he can't anymore? Either way perhaps be good to have Joelinton as an impact sub instead possibly. It's true though there is very little we can adjust personnel wise. Whereas they could put out a whole fresh 11 and likely still be competitive. Same for me. I’d even be tempted to keep Bruno on the bench and allow Tonali to do the role. Could go for a midfield three of Longstaff - Tonali - Willock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 2 hours ago, andyc35i said: Same for me. I’d even be tempted to keep Bruno on the bench and allow Tonali to do the role. Could go for a midfield three of Longstaff - Tonali - Willock 100% agree with that midfield, it would be handy to know the Chelsea team in advance though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 My best guess is Chelsea are probably going to bring Sancho and Joao Felix into the fold given they weren't used on Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Would love Tosin to start and have a nightmare as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 2 minutes ago, CallumG6 said: My best guess is Chelsea are probably going to bring Sancho and Joao Felix into the fold given they weren't used on Sunday. Probably be similar to there European games. Mudryk enzo nkunku tosin disasi dewsbury hall.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 3 minutes ago, jack j said: Probably be similar to there European games. Mudryk enzo nkunku tosin disasi dewsbury hall.. Is the 100m racist a back up player now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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