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You can be disappointed, but not angry or screaming corruption when something like that happens and the referee applies the laws of the game correctly. On the other hand all their dirty play has been swept under the carpet so the useful idiots in the cartel media have done their job.

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Just now, Skeletor said:

You can be disappointed, but not angry or screaming corruption when something like that happens and the referee applies the laws of the game correctly. On the other hand all their dirty play has been swept under the carpet so the useful idiots in the cartel media have done their job.


Yeah, like I said, annoyed at the bad luck but you can’t be angry with the decision. 

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6 minutes ago, Benwell Lad said:

The athleticism and mobility of a top level professional footballer allows him to adjust and not take out Gordon. It was intentional in a sly way.

Same with Virgil van Dijk. We got done twice in those incidents. Same referee.

The Van Dijk one was deliberate and as a result a lot worse. Kulusevski cannot move out the way there, think that's unreasonable to suggest personally.

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2 hours ago, Theregulars said:

I have to say I don’t think the Gordon incident was a penalty. The Botman one shows inconsistency, I agree. You are right to say that Spurs can get bent if they think the officiating was biased in our favour yesterday. 
 

If I were a spurs fan, my bigger question would be why does my club have the lowest wages-to-turnover ratio (47%)? To my mind, it’s quite obvious that Levy operates them mainly as a money-making machine for ownership, and competitiveness is very much a second-tier objective. Pochettino wasn’t backed when he’d earned the right to be, Mourinho was an insane hire, and they’ve actually not spent very well since they had their amazing period under Pochettino. For some reason the spurs fans don’t seem to turn on ownership, but their ownership has led them to mid-table.


It wasn’t just the Gordon challenge though, I think it was about two or three minutes before the Botman booking, Bruno was on a break and Porro (if I remember correctly) stepped across him and clearly obstructed and fouled Bruno, only for him to be allowed to carry on. Which made what happened with Maddison slightly later all the more infuriating, as Botman didn’t move and Maddison initiates the contact.

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19 minutes ago, Heron said:

The Van Dijk one was deliberate and as a result a lot worse. Kulusevski cannot move out the way there, think that's unreasonable to suggest personally.


Much like Duran the other week you can never 100% accurately judge intent, but Kulu definitely braces before the contact with Gordon in at least one replay angle I’ve seen. Even if it’s not intentional, it’s given as a free kick in any other area of the pitch

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Spurs fans aint all bad. The few I’ve spoken to still keep saying ‘not sure what the handball law/rule is’. Which is fine, we know the law was applied correctly. So not sure what they’re getting at there. 
 

But the few I’ve spoken to have all said Ange lost the plot post-match and has been like that for a while. 
 

From a good mate earlier asking me my views on the game:

 

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What did you think to all this Ange and social chat about the game? Think he’s being a bit out of order. Your first goal, I don’t actually know the rules anymore so can’t really judge. Yeah Joelinton could have had a couple of yellows but watching yesterday I was worried the coming together with Kulusevski and Gordon should have been a pen even though it was accidental and Solanke was a bit lucky. Wasn’t malicious but still dangerous. Should be at least a yellow. People moaning about the Dan Burn ‘ handball’ for a second yellow but it hit his shirt sleeve and that’s not handball

 

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4 minutes ago, aussiemag said:

Look mates, leave the aussies out of this. All we ask for is that things are fair and equal! 

You wouldn't be referring to a fair and level playing field, and all things being equal on the fair and equal playing field everything would be fair, I think that's what he meant anyway moving swiftly on how were your clear cut chances Ange ? Lacking you say, jog on mate.

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Eddie Howe has spoken of the particular isolation of the Professional Football Manager. Despite the importance of the position and the responsibility that goes with it, there's no-one above you in the organisation to turn to for advice or supervision.

 

But if there were such a person at Tottenham, I think they would be saying this - 

 

1. When answering questions from the media, don't stare down at the floor and mumble. I don't know what impression you're trying to give, but it looks a bit rude.

 

2. You seem to be treating any journo who asks you a tough question as though they're an arsehole who doesn't know about football, and that their question is a bit stupid and beneath your attention. You're paid a lot of money and part of that is promoting a good image of yourself and the club.

 

3. If you feel that a referee's decision is wrong and that you can't keep silent, say that in your opinion they have made a mistake. Don't say that they are corrupt or biased. Framing that accusation in a vague way does not help either. It makes you look a bit sneaky and I think you pride yourself on being a straightforward person.

 

4. I won't presume to talk about your footballing decisions, but be aware that flaws in your public presentation can have an affect on the morale of your players, coaching staff and supporters.

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2 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

I get he’s disappointed with the handball decision but to say the game was unfair and not equal is just fucking stupid. The guy has lost it.


I do think their second half performance was good with regards to controlling possession and playing with a weakened back line. But they didn’t create the clear cut chances to draw or win the game. He can be proud of their performance. But we also decided to sit back and absorb pressure. 

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He's clearly under a huge amount of pressure and it must be frustrating for him that he's lost so many players to illness and injuries recently (both through his fault and some not his fault).

 

And to be fair I thought Spurs played pretty well second half considering how makeshift their defence was. The way he's carried on in every interview since the final whistle is embarassing though

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3 hours ago, gdm said:

I just can’t get on board with this. The ball is booted off his hand by a player on the stretch from a yard away. I’d be more raging if Joelinton gets penalised for the actions of a spurs player 

Exactly this. And it wouldn't be a penalty if it happens in the box. Ball to hand when said hand is in a natural position isn't hand ball. 

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By the way, Ange saying he ALWAYS wins something in his 2nd season has set him up for a massive fall. All his own daft doing and bet he regrets that comment hugely. He's just not cut out for such pressure at a big club. Celtic must have been a breeze compared to this.

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2 minutes ago, KennyUtd said:

By the way, Ange saying he ALWAYS wins something in his 2nd season has set him up for a massive fall. All his own daft doing and bet he regrets that comment hugely. He's just not cut out for such pressure at a big club. Celtic must have been a breeze compared to this.

 

He did have a meltdown as the Australian national team coach and quit before going to the world cup. There was scrutiny from the media and pundits around his tactics and his stubbornness to change formation even with losing results. 

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11 minutes ago, aussiemag said:

 

He did have a meltdown as the Australian national team coach and quit before going to the world cup. There was scrutiny from the media and pundits around his tactics and his stubbornness to change formation even with losing results. 

 

This is the one I was on about

 

 

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