Elbel1 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 28 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: This does seem like exactly the moment where Spurs move in like. And we are left sat on a rock wanking and crying You say that like it's a bad thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, Geordie Magpie said: If we look at what Villa would want for Watkins whose a year older ( Wissa scored more than him last two years, then £35m would be a cracking deal and probs gets accepted, hopefully we are rapid in getting it done and not the usual snails pace .... Need some good transfer news soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 I can’t claim the credit for that last comment. It was all the fantastic writers of peep show. It’s always stuck with me and always made me laugh when I’ve thought about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Is it time to go back to the Bruno/Isak-style well of players after we've finished mucking about with this one, please? That's what's making these 'sagas' all the more exhausting. We've seen the club can sound out quality players that are slightly off the radar with less competition for their signature. At what point do we reach that on our list of targets again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 (edited) 12 minutes ago, wormy said: Is it time to go back to the Bruno/Isak-style well of players after we've finished mucking about with this one, please? That's what's making these 'sagas' all the more exhausting. We've seen the club can sound out quality players that are slightly off the radar with less competition for their signature. At what point do we reach that on our list of targets again? One theory as to why we've stopped going after European targets: transfers are much more about relationships than they are about scouting. It's 2025 and every club knows who the good "targets" in Europe are, the ones that get to the front of the line are people who have pre-existing relationships with the selling club that can help you get in there and negotiating before anyone else. For all his footballing brilliance, I doubt Howe has extensive contacts with business-side executives at European clubs (or European agents), so it's more difficult for us to get on the phone with them or to get good deals. That's why it's important to have a well-regarded sporting director in modern football. These people all hang out in the same circles/attend the same conferences etc. The easiest way to get ahead on transfers is if you "know a guy." Edited July 23, 2025 by oldtype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 8 minutes ago, oldtype said: One theory as to why we've stopped going after European targets: transfers are much more about relationships than they are about scouting. It's 2025 and every club knows who the good "targets" in Europe are, the ones that get to the front of the line are people who have pre-existing relationships with the selling club that can help you get in there and negotiating before anyone else. For all his footballing brilliance, I doubt Howe has extensive contacts with business-side executives at European clubs (or European agents), so it's more difficult for us to get on the phone with them or to get good deals. That's why it's important to have a well-regarded sporting director in modern football. These people all hang out in the same circles/attend the same conferences etc. The easiest way to get ahead on transfers is if you "know a guy." I don't disagree that a lot of it is who you know but when we're talking about players signed 3 years ago I don't see how much that's really changed. Especially considering the club hierarchy was more bare bones than it is now, even ignoring the need to figure out Mitchell and Eales's replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, wormy said: I don't disagree that a lot of it is who you know but when we're talking about players signed 3 years ago I don't see how much that's really changed. Especially considering the club hierarchy was more bare bones than it is now, even ignoring the need to figure out Mitchell and Eales's replacements. All speculation, but may have been largely based on PIF/PCP connections. Former is less involved now and latter is gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 I see we are low balling clubs again. Agree terms with player/agent then go in with a low offer so some other club can come along and take things forward as they are willing to pay more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Was hoping for an update on this today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Was hoping for an update on this today. I could give you one but you wouldn’t like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Was hoping for an update on this today. You’d expect they’d want something concluded by the weekend so he can joint up with the squad in Korea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 44 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: I can’t claim the credit for that last comment. It was all the fantastic writers of peep show. It’s always stuck with me and always made me laugh when I’ve thought about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 4 minutes ago, LFEE said: I could give you one but you wouldn’t like it. Is the updste that there is no update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 10 minutes ago, LFEE said: I could give you one but you wouldn’t like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Is the updste that there is no update? He was meant to post that in the Isak thread imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 16 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Was hoping for an update on this today. Not our style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 I think we'll end up going there, out of sheer necessity more than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Is it just me or are add ons literally part of every single transfer now? When did this become the norm? Nobody seems to just go for a flat fee now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: I think we'll end up going there, out of sheer necessity more than anything else. Is there nothing in Europe? I thought Nickson was renowned for that market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Just now, SteV said: Is it just me or are add ons literally part of every single transfer now? When did this become the norm? Nobody seems to just go for a flat fee now. They always have been, they're just reported/not reported depending on the agenda being pushed (see Ekitike). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Is there nothing in Europe? I thought Nickson was renowned for that market. Premier league Eddie ready innit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 If this is true I'd walk away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I think we'll end up going there, out of sheer necessity more than anything else. Fit for purpose, some might say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Once you're into the £40m+ range there just have to be other options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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