Yoane Wissa

[gbandit]

22 minutes ago, Paulinho said:

One of the stupider moral panics of recent years.

 

 

An incredible misrepresentation of the data. The amount of collective energy and resource that’s being pumped into AI for the output is terrifying. By all means highlight other habits that use huge energy but let’s not play down the impact AI is having on energy and resources 

[bobbydazzla]

24 minutes ago, Paulinho said:

One of the stupider moral panics of recent years.

 

 

But how much water will I use by ranting on an internet form about how much I hate Coldplay, Michael McIntyre, Sketchers and xG 

[Kid Icarus]

31 minutes ago, Paulinho said:

One of the stupider moral panics of recent years.

 

 

Very questionable data that mind. No source, no method, no gauge on frequency, whether it's chatGPT or all AI, usage vs all of its alternatives eg Google searches. 

 

 

 

Edited October 8, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[RodneyCisse]

So he’s not going to Afcon?

[Paulinho]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

An incredible misrepresentation of the data. The amount of collective energy and resource that’s being pumped into AI for the output is terrifying. By all means highlight other habits that use huge energy but let’s not play down the impact AI is having on energy and resources 

 

You're saying words but they don't really mean anything. The graph is an accurate representation of data centre water usage by common online activity, so in what sense is it a 'misrepresentation of the data'? What data are you referring to?

 

"the impact AI is having on energy and resources" - OK, what impact is it having on resources? What resources? Relative to what?

 

If anyone's interested in the reality of the subject, this is a good starting point: https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-about?open=false#§water

 

If you're more upset by AI usage than you are kids watching YouTube, you're not being rational and have fallen for a moral panic without bothering to understand the data. 

 

Shame about Wissa like. 

[bobbydazzla]

3 minutes ago, Paulinho said:

 

You're saying words but they don't really mean anything. The graph is an accurate representation of data centre water usage by common online activity, so in what sense is it a 'misrepresentation of the data'? What data are you referring to?

 

"the impact AI is having on energy and resources" - OK, what impact is it having on resources? What resources? Relative to what?

 

If anyone's interested in the reality of the subject, this is a good starting point: https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-about?open=false#§water

 

If you're more upset by AI usage than you are kids watching YouTube, you're not being rational and have fallen for a moral panic without bothering to understand the data. 

 

Shame about Wissa like. 

Where’s the data in the graph from ? 

As it stands, it’s just a graph with no context in terms of its source. Which makes it of little value  

 

If we know where the data is from we can have a decent discussion about its merits 

 

 

Edited October 8, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[SEMTEX]

Talk about the Democratic Republic of the Congo squad please.

[gbandit]

3 minutes ago, Paulinho said:

 

You're saying words but they don't really mean anything. The graph is an accurate representation of data centre water usage by common online activity, so in what sense is it a 'misrepresentation of the data'? What data are you referring to?

 

"the impact AI is having on energy and resources" - OK, what impact is it having on resources? What resources? Relative to what?

 

If anyone's interested in the reality of the subject, this is a good starting point: https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-about?open=false#§water

 

If you're more upset by AI usage than you are kids watching YouTube, you're not being rational and have fallen for a moral panic without bothering to understand the data. 

 

Shame about Wissa like. 

Maybe also accept that you don’t know what you’re talking about as no one has access to all of the data. Image generation, video generation, music generation via AI are all happening at an alarming rate and they are recognised as using a huge amount more energy than asking chatGPT a question. We don’t have a clue what the actual data really is as companies aren’t releasing it. If you think that these companies all care about being carbon neutral and creating a better world rather run greed to be the market leader then fair play to you 

[bobbydazzla]

1 minute ago, SEMTEX said:

Talk about the Democratic Republic of the Congo squad please.

How much water do they use compared to someone who isn’t me whacking themselves off over Michelle Collins videos on YouTube for approximately 90 seconds 

[Elric]

9 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

So he’s not going to Afcon?

 

I got Sora to generate a 20-minute video of Wissa himself answering this question.

 

Still dunno. 

[PRL]

I opened this thread a few days back and it was all about how much energy people had to fuck, today it’s how much energy to power AI. NO is nothing if not eclectic. 

[Elbel1]

55 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

How much water do they use compared to someone who isn’t me whacking themselves off over Michelle Collins videos on YouTube for approximately 90 seconds 

Depends how many times a day/hour this depraved person (who definitely isn't you) is whacking themselves off to Cindy from Eastenders piping off Ian Beale. 

[janpawel]

46 minutes ago, PRL said:

I opened this thread a few days back and it was all about how much energy people had to fuck, today it’s how much energy to power AI. NO is nothing if not eclectic. 

 

😂😂

[Erikse]

I wonder how much energy and resource we use in an average NO match thread. A bad run of form must be horrible for the water usage.

 

 

Edited October 9, 2025 by Erikse

[Mountain]

8 hours ago, Elliottman said:

Doesn’t really ‘make’ anyone do anything to be fair, you choose to watch or not watch. 

 

I actually like them both, just would like a bit of brevity too. They drag their videos out over 10 minutes to hit a youtube threshold for more advertising money. Fair play to them, free country.

[Mountain]

8 hours ago, black_n_white said:

They both give a good account of themselves and what they say is mostly accurate, and unbiased stuff, unlike a lots of content creators on social media platforms. 

 

I agree re Downie, Hope is full on doom if we lose then full on Hope if we win. It's very childish journalism but I still like him overall. Plenty on here hate him, which they are entitled to do, but I like him, I just watch his stuff now and then and avoid his full on doom videos.

[Mountain]

8 hours ago, nufcjmc said:

I don't mind him and Craig no Hope they are certainly a step above from ryder. The disadvantage of media today is more platforms to fill "column" inches to. The good news is you can skip past shite and ignore it.

 

That didn't need to be that long it was a minute video at best worth of information but its their job and if its what's required of them I guess I can't moan too much. 

 

Always the usual caveat inserted in all of it " my sources say" " my information as it stands right now" " things of course can change" may all be true of course just annoying its sometimes guess work dressed up and back trackable by the statements above. 

 

I agree 100%

[bobbydazzla]

5 hours ago, Erikse said:

I wonder how much energy and resource we use in an average NO match thread. A bad run of form must be horrible for the water usage.

 

 

 

The water used to cool the servers is easily balanced out by the amount of piss and tears expelled by the chicken little doom mongers 

 

[Erikse]

6 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

The water used to cool the servers is easily balanced out by the amount of piss and tears expelled by the chicken little doom mongers 

 

 

Just wait until you find out the impact on the servers from calculating xG every game. It will be our undoing.

 

 

Edited October 9, 2025 by Erikse

[AyeDubbleYoo]

20 hours ago, gbandit said:

An incredible misrepresentation of the data. The amount of collective energy and resource that’s being pumped into AI for the output is terrifying. By all means highlight other habits that use huge energy but let’s not play down the impact AI is having on energy and resources 

The fact it doesn’t do anything is also important. 

[Solitude20]

Reading on Twitter that we’re getting £6.5m compensation from FIFA for his injury.

[healthyaddiction]

13 minutes ago, Solitude20 said:

Reading on Twitter that we’re getting £6.5m compensation from FIFA for his injury.

When you saying "reading on Twitter" do you mean from an actual journalist or random ITKs?

[sempuki]

41 minutes ago, Solitude20 said:

Reading on Twitter that we’re getting £6.5m compensation from FIFA for his injury.

Hope that's right.

[Nucasol]

6 minutes ago, sempuki said:

Hope that's right.

It’s not. FIFA only compensate for wages commencing 30 days after the injury to when the player returns. If Wissa is due back in November, we’ll maybe get about £1m.

[ToonAbroad]

40 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

It’s not. FIFA only compensate for wages commencing 30 days after the injury to when the player returns. If Wissa is due back in November, we’ll maybe get about £1m.

That's not quite true. They pay the wages for the whole period he is injured but you're only eligible to claim if the injury is 28 days or longer. So we'll get 2 months of wages (at a guess) paid back. At 140k rumoured per week, that would still be around 1m though.