gjohnson Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 44 minutes ago, Ben said: Pfffftt, a billion in debt, hemorrhaging money, dwindling sponsorships, no European football and Rat boy is about to add another 2 billion with a pipe dream of a new stadium. We all know he will somehow get the govt to pay for it, then pay token rent for on a hundred year lease. Regenerating the "North" and all that bollocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 20 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Agree in principle. Would have preferred to flip e.g. Gordon though, but there’s a reason it will be world class Isak and not someone more easily replaceable that will have to fund stage two of the project. Him showing himself up as a world class whopper makes it a lot easier to stomach for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Was he left out of the friendly yesterday? Hope his decision is soon as we need to bring in other targets. Fucking get on with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 6 minutes ago, Andy84 said: Was he left out of the friendly yesterday? Hope his decision is soon as we need to bring in other targets. Fucking get on with it I think so, yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1881 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 (edited) Hate to be a doom mongerer but this deal has so many red flags. If we buy Sesko first I cannot see how we can possibly keep Isak, particularly as we have other positions to fill as well, and stay within the PSR limits for 23/24 - 25/26. if we do exceed the PSR limits then we are going to be forced to sell under pressure before the deadline again. if we do plan to sell Isak then Liverpool will reasonably assume we need to sell and can lowball us again, perhaps offering even less than before. If we sell Isak first This would be a massive risk even if we had some sort of agreement that the deal would go through. There is no way we could trust either Leipzig or Sesko or Manchester United. I just hope we are just going through the motions to show we tried or can somehow put some contractual things in place to protect ourselves. But neither Liverpool or Manchester United will be in any hurry as in both cases the player’s preference seems to be them. They also know that delaying causes us a massive headache. Edited August 3, 2025 by 1881 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 1881 said: Hate to be a doom mongerer but this deal has so many red flags. If we buy Sesko first I cannot see how we can possibly keep Isak, particularly as we have other positions to fill as well, and stay within the PSR limits for 23/24 - 25/26. if we do exceed the PSR limits then we are going to be forced to sell under pressure before the deadline again. if we do plan to sell Isak then Liverpool will reasonably assume we need to sell and can lowball us again, perhaps offering even less than before. If we sell Isak first This would be a massive risk even if we had some sort of agreement that the deal would go through. There is no way we could trust either Leipzig or Sesko or Manchester United. I just hope we are just going through the motions to show we tried or can somehow put some contractual things in place to protect ourselves. But neither Liverpool or Manchester United will be in any hurry as in both cases the player’s preference seems to be them. Have to remember we hold all the cards - Isak still has three years left on his contract so are in not rush to sell. We also have no PSR issues this year so don't need to sell. Isak may not like it but I can see no scenario where he refuses to play personally once the season starts. Edited August 3, 2025 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 He’s not signing for us. We end up with some surprise kid from the continent who turns out to be the surprise package of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1881 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Just now, duo said: Have to remember we hold all the card - Isak still has three years left on his contract so are in not rush to sell. We also have no PSR issues this year so don't need to sell. Isak may not like it but I can see no scenario where he refuses to play personally. Yes I agree that Isak staying is the only really palatable scenario at this point in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 (edited) If it is true that PIF are involved now - they will not be selling him if they don't want to. Regardless of what the player wants. I also think Sesko deal will get over the line as Man U are just playing delay tactics to cobble together their pennies. They haven't the money without selling. Edited August 3, 2025 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1881 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 2 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said: He’s not signing for us. We end up with some surprise kid from the continent who turns out to be the surprise package of the season. I admire your optimism! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 4 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said: He’s not signing for us. We end up with some surprise kid from the continent who turns out to be the surprise package of the season. Samu 4 me lyk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Happy Man U bid day everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 My reading of the situation is that Leipzig and Sesko's agent are trying to initiate a bidding war to extract as much dollar as possible from the deal. The player has communicated that he'd be happy to join either club (granted he may have a preference), so we've gone early with a big fee hoping that Man United need to sell or they simply won't put their money where their mouth is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Man U took almost 6 weeks to negotiate Mbeumo deal, I think Leipzig may be waiting a while for their bid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 The fact remains, if he reallywanted to come he'd be here now having a medical, this 'thinking through options' shit is not a good sign. He's stalling for Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 The frustrating thing is it seems this will hold everything else up. If we can’t pursue multiple players at once then we need quick decisions and hard deadlines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 3 minutes ago, 1964 said: The fact remains, if he reallywanted to come he'd be here now having a medical, this 'thinking through options' shit is not a good sign. He's stalling for Man Utd Given we haven't agreed a final deal with his club, that's nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 5 minutes ago, 1964 said: The fact remains, if he reallywanted to come he'd be here now having a medical, this 'thinking through options' shit is not a good sign. He's stalling for Man Utd Well that and the fact that we haven’t had a bid accepted yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 5 minutes ago, 1964 said: The fact remains, if he reallywanted to come he'd be here now having a medical, this 'thinking through options' shit is not a good sign. He's stalling for Man Utd Given we haven't agreed a final deal with his club, that's nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Just now, Toonpack said: Given we haven't agreed a final deal with his club, that's nonsense. You can say that again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 If this falls through, then it means our resolve to keep Isak strengthens. Silver linings and all that. Isak and Wissa for the season whilst our new technical director nerd scours the stats for next season’s “damaged but with a high ceiling” under-the-radar wunderkind, let’s go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Mover Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 I'm sure his preference is Man U, even if it's just for the money. We need to continue to try and buy players that want to play for us and that there is little or no competition for especially from the 6 clubs that have much more money than us. Elanga, Ramsdale already, should be Wissa next. It's an unpalatable reality but it is reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 56 minutes ago, 1881 said: Hate to be a doom mongerer but this deal has so many red flags. If we buy Sesko first I cannot see how we can possibly keep Isak, particularly as we have other positions to fill as well, and stay within the PSR limits for 23/24 - 25/26. if we do exceed the PSR limits then we are going to be forced to sell under pressure before the deadline again. if we do plan to sell Isak then Liverpool will reasonably assume we need to sell and can lowball us again, perhaps offering even less than before. If we sell Isak first This would be a massive risk even if we had some sort of agreement that the deal would go through. There is no way we could trust either Leipzig or Sesko or Manchester United. I just hope we are just going through the motions to show we tried or can somehow put some contractual things in place to protect ourselves. But neither Liverpool or Manchester United will be in any hurry as in both cases the player’s preference seems to be them. They also know that delaying causes us a massive headache. A. We have the funds. B. We won't sell Isak (at all imo) before bringing someone in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 12 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Given we haven't agreed a final deal with his club, that's nonsense. I thought we'd offered them what they wanted? If we haven't, fair enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 59 minutes ago, 1881 said: Hate to be a doom mongerer but this deal has so many red flags. If we buy Sesko first I cannot see how we can possibly keep Isak, particularly as we have other positions to fill as well, and stay within the PSR limits for 23/24 - 25/26. if we do exceed the PSR limits then we are going to be forced to sell under pressure before the deadline again. if we do plan to sell Isak then Liverpool will reasonably assume we need to sell and can lowball us again, perhaps offering even less than before. If we sell Isak first This would be a massive risk even if we had some sort of agreement that the deal would go through. There is no way we could trust either Leipzig or Sesko or Manchester United. I just hope we are just going through the motions to show we tried or can somehow put some contractual things in place to protect ourselves. But neither Liverpool or Manchester United will be in any hurry as in both cases the player’s preference seems to be them. They also know that delaying causes us a massive headache. We’d be comfortably within the limits of PSR - the issue would be how many other players we want to sign (and for what price). Buying Šeško and keeping Isak would be well within PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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