pubteam Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 23 minutes ago, madras said: And still 700million in debt. Can we ban signings if your club is massively in debt, I mean it’s for the good of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Let Man Utd have this guy and his nobhead agent for an inflated fee and get Samu from Porto. I really think the Porto guy is going to be way better than Sesko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 9 minutes ago, loki679 said: Let Man Utd have this guy and his nobhead agent for an inflated fee and get Samu from Porto. I really think the Porto guy is going to be way better than Sesko. Samu looks incredibly raw. Much prefer Watkins if the Sesko deal doesn’t happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 If we were wanting to bring Pedro in to play alongside Isak, is it out of the question that we'd be doing the same with Sesko? Or did we always know Isak was going to want out and Pedro was a succession plan? We've negotiated (no pun intended) this summer so badly it's hard to know what to think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 15 minutes ago, loki679 said: Let Man Utd have this guy and his nobhead agent for an inflated fee and get Samu from Porto. I really think the Porto guy is going to be way better than Sesko. I actually want them both instead of Wissa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 5 minutes ago, Chrisjraby said: If we were wanting to bring Pedro in to play alongside Isak, is it out of the question that we'd be doing the same with Sesko? Or did we always know Isak was going to want out and Pedro was a succession plan? We've negotiated (no pun intended) this summer so badly it's hard to know what to think From the highlights I've seen Sesko seems like a CF who has the ability to drop off. I don't think he can play with another 9 for long periods realistically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 If we sign this guy, Isak goes. Surely we don't want this to go through? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Isak is going to go regardless, we're just kicking a can down the road at this point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonFC Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Just now, JUICE690 said: If we sign this guy, Isak goes. Surely we don't want this to go through? If we sign Sesko AND Wissa then Isak goes but we needed another striker regardless so if its just Sesko then Isak will stay. Club suicide to go into a season on the hope an PL unproven 22 year old can get us the goals needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Ultimately Isak goes, its just a case of when. Personally I'd love to get Sesko and transition to him as main man this season. Seems unlikely that we'll get him right now with the media/agent push to Manchester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 12 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said: Ultimately Isak goes, its just a case of when. Personally I'd love to get Sesko and transition to him as main man this season. Seems unlikely that we'll get him right now with the media/agent push to Manchester Well then Isak doesn’t go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Alex was going in 11 months anyway, sell at peak and develop the squad. Trading this way gets us closer to our goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 58 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: Depends what the actual “going rate” is. Out of curiosity, I asked ChatGPT to do deep research using form, stats, data from Transfermarkt and other similar sites, coupled with comparable players and recent big sales. (I know, I know… AI can’t take into account the emotion of it) It came back with €120m - €150m. Euros, not pounds. So closer to £130m at the top end of its estimate. See below: Reveal hidden contents True Market Value of Alexander Isak (August 2025) Current Market Valuation by Transfermarkt and CIES Alexander Isak’s market value has surged into nine figures after his stellar performances for Newcastle United. Transfermarkt – a leading market value tracker – currently values Isak at €120 million (≈£103m) as of its latest update on May 30, 2025 . This is the highest valuation of his career and reflects a sharp rise from around €75–80m a year earlier. In parallel, the CIES Football Observatory’s statistical model (which factors age, contract, performance, etc.) estimated Isak’s “fair price” in mid-2025 at roughly €100–110 million . In a 2024 CIES report, Isak was ranked among the top 40 most valuable players worldwide with an estimated value of €100.6m and a long contract to 2028 boosting his valuation . Both sources indicate that Isak is one of the most valuable forwards in Europe in 2025, with only a handful of strikers (e.g. Erling Haaland) valued significantly higher. Recent Transfer Offers and Interest Isak’s transfer market heat in 2025 has matched these valuations. Several elite clubs have been credibly linked with big-money moves for the Swedish striker. Notably, Liverpool made an official inquiry in July 2025, communicating willingness to bid on the order of €140 million for Isak . In early August 2025, Liverpool followed up with a formal bid reportedly worth up to £110 million (~€128m), which Newcastle rejected . According to ESPN, this offer was well below Newcastle’s valuation, and Liverpool’s overtures were rebuffed with the message that Newcastle do not plan to sell at anything less than their asking price . Other heavyweights have also been linked. Real Madrid have been mentioned in speculation as a club that could afford Isak, but only if they were willing to meet a massive fee reportedly over €200 million (about $235m) – a figure reflecting Newcastle’s strong hand with Isak under contract until 2028 . In reality, Real’s priorities lie elsewhere (and they would likely pursue Erling Haaland if spending that kind of sum) . Paris Saint-Germain and even Saudi clubs have the financial clout as well, but Isak is said to prefer staying in European top-flight football for now . So far, no club has met Newcastle’s steep valuation, but the interest from multiple Champions League clubs is genuine, underscoring Isak’s stature as a coveted asset. Newcastle United’s Stance and Asking Price Newcastle United have publicly and privately maintained that Isak is not for sale in this window, barring an extraordinary offer. Given the club’s ambitions (fresh off securing Champions League football for 2025/26) and Isak’s importance as their talisman up front, Newcastle are demanding a premium to even consider a transfer. The reported asking price is around £150 million (approximately €175–180m) . Sources confirmed to ESPN that Newcastle’s valuation for Isak is on the order of £150m ($197m), a figure far above the initial bid Liverpool tried . This lofty price tag (~$160m in press reports) has made headlines . It effectively signals that Newcastle would only sell if a record-breaking offer comes in. Isak’s long contract (through June 2028 ) gives Newcastle leverage to hold out for a huge fee or simply retain him. Indeed, some reports suggest the Magpies wouldn’t even blink unless an offer in the €180–200 million range came along . In sum, Newcastle’s valuation of Isak (~€170m+) far exceeds his formal market “value,” indicating how highly they rate him and how pivotal he is to the club’s project. Performance and Profile Analysis At 25 years old, Alexander Isak is entering his prime years – a key factor in his market value. He combines youth and experience: already with several top-flight seasons under his belt and 52 senior caps for Sweden (16 goals) by 2025 , yet still young enough to improve further. Isak’s 2024/25 season was a breakout at the elite level. He scored 23 goals in the Premier League for Newcastle, finishing as the league’s second-highest scorer (behind Mo Salah) . This included goals against top opposition and clutch performances that helped Newcastle secure a top-4 finish. In all competitions, Isak has netted 54 goals in 86 appearances for Newcastle since his 2022 arrival , showcasing impressive consistency. Such productivity in England’s toughest competition has driven his valuation upward – early 2025 saw his estimated market value jump to around £120m after that 23-goal campaign . Beyond goals, Isak offers a well-rounded skill set: pace, dribbling ability, and creativity to drop deep or play wide when needed. He contributed a number of assists and was central to Newcastle’s attack. Analysts often cite his “rare blend” of attributes – height (1.92m), technique, and football IQ – which make him adaptable to various tactical systems . This versatility and upside add to his market appeal. Isak’s contract length (till 2028) and the fact he’s tied to a wealthy club also inflate his valuation. A long contract means Newcastle faces no pressure to sell, allowing them to command a full premium (as the CIES model notes, more years remaining raises a player’s transfer value) . In Isak’s case, a buyer not only pays for current ability but also secures his peak years for the duration of a new contract – a significant asset. Regarding his injury record, Isak has had a few moderate injuries but nothing catastrophic. He did miss a chunk of 2022/23 with a thigh injury (about 3 months) , and had some minor muscle issues and a toe fracture in subsequent seasons, totaling 9 games missed in 2024/25 . While these injuries underscore that he isn’t immune to knocks, they have not been chronic or long-term issues like ACL tears. Isak returned from each setback to maintain high performance levels. Clubs evaluating him would note that he has managed a heavy schedule in the Premier League and Europe without any career-threatening injuries – an encouraging sign for sustaining his value. In summary, Isak’s age, output, and fitness profile suggest that any club investing in him would be getting a proven, yet still developing, center-forward who could lead their line for many years. From an analytics perspective, data-driven valuation models back up Isak’s hefty price. The CIES Observatory (which considers factors like age, contract, minutes, league strength, team performance, etc.) places Isak in the €100m+ bracket , aligning with the traditional market valuations. Similarly, Newcastle’s internal valuation (~£150m) can be seen as pricing in not just his current 25-goal-per-season level, but also the scarcity of top strikers available. In today’s market, proven goal-scorers at a Champions League level are at a premium, and Isak’s value reflects that reality. Comparison with Similar Forwards in 2025 To contextualize Isak’s market value, below is a comparison of his profile with a few similar high-profile strikers (mid-20s age, playing at top clubs) as of August 2025. This includes their age, league goal tally in the 2024/25 season, and an estimated market value: Player (Club) Age 2024/25 League Goals Estimated Market Value Alexander Isak (Newcastle) 25 23 – Premier League ~€120 million Erling Haaland (Man City) 25 22 – Premier League ~€180 million Julián Álvarez (Atlético) 25 17 – La Liga ~€100 million Lautaro Martínez (Inter) 27 12 – Serie A ~€95 million Table: Isak compared to peers – All players are top-tier forwards in their mid-20s (as of 2025). Goal figures are from the 2024/25 league season; market values are Transfermarkt estimates. As shown above, Isak’s valuation (~€120m) is in line with other elite forwards of his generation. For instance, it sits between Julián Álvarez (~€100m) and the prolific Erling Haaland (~€180m). Haaland (also 25) is a standout with record-breaking goal stats and thus commands a higher price tag , but Isak is not far off the next tier of top strikers. Notably, Isak outscored Haaland in the Premier League last season (23 vs 22 goals) , underlining why his stock has risen so sharply. Compared to Lautaro Martínez – a slightly older striker valued just under €100m – Isak is valued higher, reflecting his superior recent goal output and age advantage. It’s also instructive to contrast Isak with peers who have seen their values dip. For example, 26-year-old Darwin Núñez, another big-money striker of a similar age, is now valued around €45–50m after inconsistent form at Liverpool . Isak’s continued development and consistency have ensured he remains in the upper echelon of market values, whereas some contemporaries have not sustained their initial valuations. This comparison underlines that Isak’s ~€120m valuation is backed up by both performance data and age-related upside, making him one of the most valuable center-forwards in football outside of the absolute top superstars. Conclusion In August 2025, Alexander Isak’s true market value can be assessed in the €120–150 million range, based on a convergence of authoritative valuations and real-world demand. Transfermarkt’s latest update pegs him at €120M , while analytics (CIES) and Newcastle’s own stance suggest a nine-figure valuation is justified – if not on the higher end (Newcastle’s asking ~€170m) for any transfer . Recent transfer saga developments (e.g. Liverpool’s £110m bid rejected ) reinforce that clubs view Isak as a premium asset. His age (25), impressive goal record in 2024/25, long-term contract, and rare skill set all contribute to an exceptionally high valuation in today’s market. In comparison to similar-profile strikers, Isak firmly belongs in the top bracket for his position, validating Newcastle’s hefty price tag. Barring any significant downturn in form or fitness, Alexander Isak’s market value as of summer 2025 cements him as one of the most valuable forwards in the game, with clubs having to break transfer records to pry him away from St. James’ Park. Sources: Transfermarkt player profiles and market value data ; ESPN and media reports on Liverpool’s bid and Newcastle’s asking price ; Business Standard analysis of Isak’s valuation timeline ; CIES Football Observatory value estimates ; player performance statistics from 2024/25 season . All data is up-to-date as of August 2025. It goes from claiming his value is €120m, to saying we want €150m, to then claiming we want €200m from R Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: It goes from claiming his value is €120m, to saying we want €150m, to then claiming we want €200m from R Madrid Sounds like chatgpt has been reading my posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 1 minute ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Alex was going in 11 months anyway, sell at peak and develop the squad. Trading this way gets us closer to our goal 11 months gives a lot more time to plan. Find it nuts that anyone is happy to just give up on Isak playing for us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Just now, JUICE690 said: 11 months gives a lot more time to plan. Find it nuts that anyone is happy to just give up on Isak playing for us again. Isak seems to have given up on it tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Let's see how he is come Tuesday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 I'm not happy but schedules move. Our plans should have been in place for a year already. The ground work should have already been there for a player to know this summer or next he is coming in, thats a failure of many people at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: Isak seems to have given up on it tbf Lots of moving parts at this stage. Liverpool appear to have given up on Isak...but have they really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It goes from claiming his value is €120m, to saying we want €150m, to then claiming we want €200m from R Madrid GBP, not euros, we want £150M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Just now, Tonalis Bookie said: I'm not happy but schedules move. Our plans should have been in place for a year already. The ground work should have already been there for a player to know this summer or next he is coming in, thats a failure of many people at the club. It was reported going into this window that we had money, no PSR restrictions and that we were ready to move on targets. Every one of those targets then rejected us for other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 3 minutes ago, TRon said: Lots of moving parts at this stage. Liverpool appear to have given up on Isak...but have they really? They’ll be back in, I reckon. Can’t see it not happening at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: They’ll be back in, I reckon. Can’t see it not happening at this point. Of course they will. But if we don't get Sesko I don't see us agreeing to sell Isak so he'll have to get his head around playing another season here. I think he'll be fine once he comes to terms with it. He's reporting back for training this week, that gives a fair indication. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 22 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: It was reported going into this window that we had money, no PSR restrictions and that we were ready to move on targets. Every one of those targets then rejected us for other clubs. Those targets wouldnt have rejected us if the groundwork was done, the agents had talked to us, deal was in place and all the preparations for houses, relocation for family etc were done. It's clear they weren't or else this mass rejection would not have happened. 100% that had happened for Trafford and then we messed around and blew the one we had actually done the ground work on. The players we want to sign in either 12 or 24 months should already have been scouted and interest be known to them and their representatives This is why city was so easily done and so quick, none of that was needed, he is already here and they could keep his life the same. A deal isn't done in a few weeks very often. We have often worked with the same agents for multiple players like when we did trippier and then moved for Pope, like we tried with Trafford and Delap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 3, 2025 Share Posted August 3, 2025 6 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Those targets wouldnt have rejected us if the groundwork was done, the agents had talked to us, deal was in place and all the preparations for houses, relocation for family etc were done. It's clear they weren't or else this mass rejection would not have happened. 100% that had happened for Trafford and then we messed around and blew the one we had actually done the ground work on. I mean, much of what you said there is pure conjecture (how do you know whether we did or didn’t do all of that?) and entirely irrelevant if a club, in the case of Delap, Mbeumo (and probably others) offers an extra £100k in wages per week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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