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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


You must really be annoyed watching football if players doing weird things with their socks bothers you. Pretty much every player cuts or tears them or wears them too low or too high :lol:

Look at him, man. His socks look as sad as he does.

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1 hour ago, Ronson333 said:

Would people sell at £50m?

 

Absolutely.

 

He's been here for what? Over four months now and it's absolutely unheard of for players to improve or get used to a different way of playing with time, patience and good quality coaching. Hopefully the high IQ lads break out the German bombers chant and he puts in a transfer request.

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2 hours ago, Ronson333 said:

Would people sell at £50m?


No I don’t think so, but another £10m might make me think.


He’s obviously talented so you can’t write him off, but I feel like we’ve bought him to play a role he’s not suited to and not that experienced in.

 

We definitely need a new striker though IMO, Wissa can be considered a utility man to play across the front three when needed (no chance he’ll have a buyer).

 

 

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The guys scored goals, he obviously has the ability. His form was better at the beginning of the season and it’s tailed off but the raw ingredients are there.

 

It’s for Eddie and the coaching team to find a system and style of play that brings the best out of him. Madness to contemplate selling so early.

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Just now, Keggy_Keagal said:

He's made to play off or behind a pacey striker who plays on the shoulder. I don't get why Howe doesn't try it . He used to have spells in games of Wilson and Isak playing together. 

I think with no 3rd forward (Osula being injured) available he is scared to play both as neither can last 90 minutes and if you play both you are left with Gordon up top as an option

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Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

What top teams would he currently suit in their XI? 


I was just about to ask similar, but more towards what manager would get the best out of him? I don’t wan’t Eddie out, but he’s been so rigid in sticking to his own tactics rather than playing to his record signings strengths. 
 

He is unorthodox, but that doesn’t make it hard to play it to his feet more, the lad must be getting frustrated. 

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3 minutes ago, Funtime Frankie said:

I think with no 3rd forward (Osula being injured) available he is scared to play both as neither can last 90 minutes and if you play both you are left with Gordon up top as an option

We didn't have a 3rd forward when he did that with Isak and Wilson tho ? 

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8 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

What top teams would he currently suit in their XI? 


He could easily play for Man City, where they own the ball and he could get involved more often, with players making intelligent runs forward and beyond him too

 

 

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Playing as a lone striker in this version of Newcastle got to be the hardest job in the world right now. Prime Messi would look hopeless.

 

Its quite obvious our problem is in going forward, its just not functional, slow, cautious and too focused on creating triangles who only ends in a pass back to our cm or defenders, depending on where we started.

 

I find it difficult to put the blame on a new striker in a new league. He is obviously highly talented, but by god we need to find out how to attack as a team. The problem is not Nick, it’s our midfield and wingers.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

What top teams would he currently suit in their XI? 

Whichever teams Havertz fitted into… oh… wait…

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Upfront on his own is no good like. 

 

We targeted players like this all summer though. Sesko, Strand Larsen, Woltemade, Ekitike, Ramos. They'd all struggle in this team maybe with the exception of Ekitike, and there's no chance he would have as many goals as now.

 

I thought he was brought in because Howe wanted to use him in a two? He looked better against Bournemouth up top with Wissa. 

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Just now, Doctor Zaius said:

Upfront on his own is no good like. 

 

We targeted players like this all summer though. Sesko, Strand Larsen, Woltemade, Ekitike, Ramos. They'd all struggle in this team maybe with the exception of Ekitike, and there's no chance he would have as many goals as now.

 

I thought he was brought in because Howe wanted to use him in a two? He looked better against Bournemouth up top with Wissa. 

 

I think they'd all do a job. I'm not saying Woltemade isn't doing a job, but he's not a number 9/CF for me. The rest are. 

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Howe et al hasn’t tried to work out how to best fit Woltemade in imo. Feels like just plugged him straight into Isak's position in the 4-3-3 that worked last season with a totally different profile and it's not even a tiny bit close to being suited to his game. If he comes deep, you need runners beyond him or players close around him; our wingers are consistently nowhere near him. And yet, even still, without his goals we’d be knackered.

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7 hours ago, GOTONEW said:

He's lacking some bravery, that's for sure. But my god, the guy gets zero protection from the ref. It's beyond a joke, now. 

some of the rugby tackles on him, man.

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I feel I have to steel myself before opening this thread, I avoid it generally. I feel for the lad, so talented but just being misused atm imo.

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4 minutes ago, HawK said:

I feel I have to steel myself before opening this thread, I avoid it generally. I feel for the lad, so talented but just being misused atm imo.

That's exactly how I feel, very little being done to play to this lads actual strengths. 

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The fact that so-called EPL proven prime year fit Howe’s style striker Mr Wissa is also struggling, in a way even worse than Nick, is enough to explain the situation or the current problem we are having.

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Isak leaves and we sign Nick, who has a completely different profile and we subsequently don't change anything at all in terms of the way we play. Either a) we bought the completely wrong player or b) we are playing the wrong tactics for the players we have.

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I always pay special attention to Nick. The lad makes himself available for a pass so often, but he never gets played in. A few times he would have been through on goal if he'd been passed to him. But the midfield always plays the ball out to the wings. And from there, they usually just send in high crosses. Either the midfield is too rigidly structured, or the players simply aren't intelligent enough to play Nick's game.

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Just now, Jack14Bojangles said:

I always pay special attention to Nick. The lad makes himself available for a pass so often, but he never gets played in. A few times he would have been through on goal if he'd been passed to him. But the midfield always plays the ball out to the wings. And from there, they usually just send in high crosses. Either the midfield is too rigidly structured, or the players simply aren't intelligent enough to play Nick's game.

He’s been performing poorly and getting progressively worse of late tbf.  The system and teammates are only part of the issue - the lad needs to pull his socks up a bit (metaphorically speaking)

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