lovejoy Posted Sunday at 18:25 Share Posted Sunday at 18:25 1 minute ago, Joe1984 said: So basically your happy with us signing players with clauses in so if they prove to be good, the big clubs can sign them for a lot less than market value? That'll go well... Hang on, you have already said you'd sign him with the clause, so again, what on earth are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 18:26 Share Posted Sunday at 18:26 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: I wouldn’t. Don’t see the benefit of signing and training a key player for just 12 months for zero benefit. I’ve never been one for loans which essentially is what you are agreeing (if allowed/true). You agree that with one club/agent you’ll be beholden forever. Hence why I wouldn’t of sold Isak. Fair enough, i'd still do the deal as the £15m profit and a good player for a year would still be a plus, but all about opinions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Sunday at 18:27 Share Posted Sunday at 18:27 (edited) 2 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Hang on, you have already said you'd sign him with the clause, so again, what on earth are you talking about? Because apparently that is a term of the contract. Again if we HAVE to have that it in to sign a player and it's guaranteed to profit. Fine profit is profit. But if I was given the option I would NEVER want that as I want to keep our best players. Edited Sunday at 18:27 by Joe1984 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 18:28 Share Posted Sunday at 18:28 (edited) 1 minute ago, Joe1984 said: Because apparently that is a term of the contract. Again if we HAVE to have that it in to sign a player and it's guaranteed to profit. Fine profit is profit. But if I was given the option I would NEVER want that axi want to keep our best players. Neither would anybody, man! You're stating the obvious! Edited Sunday at 18:28 by lovejoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Sunday at 18:28 Share Posted Sunday at 18:28 1 minute ago, lovejoy said: Fair enough, i'd still do the deal as the £15m profit and a good player for a year would still be a plus, but all about opinions! Where you getting £15m profit from? I was reading £30m which sounds the same as what we are paying for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Sunday at 18:28 Share Posted Sunday at 18:28 Let's see what the buy back fee is like. Hopefully it isn't some cheeky value. Otherwise, shouldn't really be accepting this sort of thing. Would leave them to it and go and sign someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 18:29 Share Posted Sunday at 18:29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: Where you getting £15m profit from? I was reading £30m which sounds the same as what we are paying for him. God only knows, the whole thing is hypothetical, i replied to someone who said £45m clause, you replied to me. Think that's it! Edited Sunday at 18:32 by lovejoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Sunday at 18:30 Share Posted Sunday at 18:30 Just now, lovejoy said: Neither would anybody, man! You're stating the obvious! Well what are you on about then? You said you're fine with it as is? Would you rather have him for a year and £15m profit? Or would rather there was no clause and he's just our player? Which is it for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 18:31 Share Posted Sunday at 18:31 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Well what are you on about then? You said you're fine with it as is? Would you rather have him for a year and £15m profit? Or would rather there was no clause and he's just our player? Which is it for you? Are you all there? If (and it is an if) we can only sign him with a clause, sign him, it is still a win if this hypothetical situation came up. You apparently think the same. We agree. Every man and his dog would rather do the deal without a clause, who wouldn't? That goes without saying. But it doesn't appear to be the case, does it? Edited Sunday at 18:32 by lovejoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted Sunday at 18:31 Share Posted Sunday at 18:31 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: Where you getting £15m profit from? I was reading £30m which sounds the same as what we are paying for him. That was someone talking the piss, nobody knows what the actual buyback is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Sunday at 18:32 Share Posted Sunday at 18:32 What’s the issue with this? The worst case scenario is that we effectively get a one year free loan, and we’re presumably getting a significant discount on the initial transfer fee because of that possibility. Plenty of scenarios where Real Madrid elects not to exercise the clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted Sunday at 18:33 Share Posted Sunday at 18:33 17 minutes ago, Stifler said: I think it’s worth remembering that if a player is wanted by Real Madrid, he’s going to go there regardless of a release clause or not. This^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Sunday at 18:33 Share Posted Sunday at 18:33 1 minute ago, lovejoy said: Are you all there? If (and it is an if) we can only sign him with a clause, sign him, it is still a win if this hypothetical situation came up. You apparently think the same. We agree. Every man and his dog would rather do the deal without a clause, who wouldn't? That goes without saying. But it doesn't appear to be the case, does it? Which is exactly what I've been saying? 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 18:33 Share Posted Sunday at 18:33 Just now, oldtype said: What’s the issue with this? The worst case scenario is that we effectively get a one year free loan, and we’re presumably getting a significant discount on the initial transfer fee because of that possibility. Plenty of scenarios where Real Madrid elects not to exercise the clause. Save yourself mate, delete this post. you'll go round in circles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 18:34 Share Posted Sunday at 18:34 Just now, Joe1984 said: Which is exactly what I've been saying? 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted Sunday at 18:36 Share Posted Sunday at 18:36 (edited) Why is everyone believing this buyback lie ? it’s absolute fabrication Literally zero chance we sign a player to sell back to Madrid a year later (with the clause) As others mentioned , If Real Madrid want him back in a year they could have him , but at the correct/ New sale price Edited Sunday at 18:37 by JonBez comesock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Sunday at 18:39 Share Posted Sunday at 18:39 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Why is everyone believing this buyback lie ? it’s absolute fabrication Literally zero chance we sign a player to sell back to Madrid a year later (with the clause) As others mentioned , If Real Madrid want him back in a year they could have him , but at the correct/ New sale price Was thinking the same. One journo that I (and probably everyone else) had never heard of said it, that’s it. Edited Sunday at 18:39 by Danh1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted Sunday at 18:41 Share Posted Sunday at 18:41 14 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Fair enough, i'd still do the deal as the £15m profit and a good player for a year would still be a plus, but all about opinions! In that scenario we'd be losing one of our better players for £15m and having to replace them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 18:43 Share Posted Sunday at 18:43 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said: In that scenario we'd be losing one of our better players for £15m and having to replace them. Go on, how? Why would it be a £15m total fee now? In fact, don't bother. the whole thing is hypothetical and utterly pointless. I replied to someone saying £45m clause and now utterly regret it Edited Sunday at 18:43 by lovejoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Sunday at 18:44 Share Posted Sunday at 18:44 Just now, lovejoy said: Go on, how? Why would it be a £15 total fee now? In fact, don't bother. the whole thing is hypothetical and utterly pointless. I replied to someone saying £45m clause and now utterly regret it No no. You're down the rabbit hole now! Might as well see where it goes... 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Sunday at 18:47 Share Posted Sunday at 18:47 10 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Save yourself mate, delete this post. you'll go round in circles. Folks should think of it as smart PSR management. We need to find a way to reduce the fee spend this summer to plug a lot of holes with limited funds, so we’re looking at players with weird contractual situations that will depress the initial fee. It’s fine if that means we make less of a profit on transfers later. We’re sacrificing money later for money now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Sunday at 18:53 Share Posted Sunday at 18:53 I'll wait on the night Ryder to cock slap these Spanish journos some common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Sunday at 18:55 Share Posted Sunday at 18:55 (edited) 31 minutes ago, KaKa said: Let's see what the buy back fee is like. Hopefully it isn't some cheeky value. Otherwise, shouldn't really be accepting this sort of thing. Would leave them to it and go and sign someone else. Just remember what Ross Wilson did re Anderson/Elanga 😁 If we get this lad it’ll be a good deal that suits us. Edited Sunday at 19:00 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Sunday at 19:14 Share Posted Sunday at 19:14 1 hour ago, lovejoy said: How? Explain? If Isak had a buy back clause for 70m would you be happy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 19:20 Share Posted Sunday at 19:20 5 minutes ago, nufc123 said: If Isak had a buy back clause for 70m would you be happy? But he didn't, so what is the point in asking that? You came up with this £45m clause thing, where did you get that figure from? And if that is true, would you do the deal, or not? I would. You? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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