LFEE Posted Sunday at 13:51 Share Posted Sunday at 13:51 Is a buy back not the same thing Man City had with Trafford. If the player is not up for sale then it matters not. If however we decide to flip him in 12 month Real Madrid can get him at the set £30m fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted Sunday at 13:55 Share Posted Sunday at 13:55 How can they do that other than threatening us to use their buy back clause now if we don't agree? Seems mad. Rigged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy74 Posted Sunday at 13:56 Share Posted Sunday at 13:56 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What Jake said. Not really So we can only have him for a season if he plays well? Tell them to bugger off (in Spanish) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted Sunday at 13:58 Share Posted Sunday at 13:58 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: Is a buy back not the same thing Man City had with Trafford. If the player is not up for sale then it matters not. If however we decide to flip him in 12 month Real Madrid can get him at the set £30m fee. Sounds nearer the truth. Probably more they'll have first option at a certain price IF we wanted to sell him next summer. If its true at all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted Sunday at 14:00 Share Posted Sunday at 14:00 30 minutes ago, Teasy said: Yeah good point. Not even sure it would mean a fixed fee. Normally it's means the club have to be offered the player first at whatever fee another team has offered. If it's that for 1 year I can believe they might get that clause in there. Just to avoid the trouble of Madrid activating their current buy back clause. Aye, makes sense the club would agree to this if it prevents them activating their current buy-back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Sunday at 14:05 Share Posted Sunday at 14:05 4 minutes ago, Scoot said: Sounds nearer the truth. Probably more they'll have first option at a certain price IF we wanted to sell him next summer. If its true at all... Exactly. Who knows if there is any truth in it. Seem to recall similar accounts saying we’d got such a good price for Gordon because the agreement was we’d buy Muñoz and flip him to Barcelona in 12 months at a cheap price. So this is probably their logic going a stage further Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Sunday at 14:05 Share Posted Sunday at 14:05 Buy backs are a fucking joke man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Sunday at 14:08 Share Posted Sunday at 14:08 I'm assuming it's more of a minimum fee release clause just for Madrid btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted Sunday at 14:09 Share Posted Sunday at 14:09 Buybacks ffs, who's going to initiate them man? we gave away arguably Englands current best midfielder for Nixys without inserting one, or add ons or anything & were not daft by any stretch,,,, Buybacks are so last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted Sunday at 14:10 Share Posted Sunday at 14:10 Don’t believe a word of the buy back clause , complete fabrication Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidg Posted Sunday at 14:11 Share Posted Sunday at 14:11 I don't think we'd be stupid enough to let Real buy him back next year for 40m or whatever. They also shop in a totally different market to us anyway. It'll be reet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Magpie Posted Sunday at 14:13 Share Posted Sunday at 14:13 We are basically negotiating this deal with Osasuna AND Real Madrid. Not only do Madrid have a 50% Sell on they have 50% economic rights, basically co ownership. He is registered to play for only Osasuna BUT Real Madrid do have a say in transfer talks as they own half of his rights. It probably would be a buy back clause benefiting Madrid and not a first option clause. Although a deal like that sounds crap, If the clause is double or more what we pay then he has a good season with us and benefits us, we can flip him for a big profit quickly which I think is why the club will probably still entertain this deal ( if this rumour of buy back is true) as it will help us with the financial rules but it would be a bit shit as we'd be back in the same boat of needing a new left winger in a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Sunday at 14:29 Share Posted Sunday at 14:29 40 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What Jake said. So if he turns out to be amazing we sell way under his value? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Sunday at 14:33 Share Posted Sunday at 14:33 Sort of explains why he’s so cheap for a Spanish international. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted Sunday at 14:34 Share Posted Sunday at 14:34 We’re not buying him from Real Madrid though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Magpie Posted Sunday at 14:36 Share Posted Sunday at 14:36 2 minutes ago, Ritchie said: We’re not buying him from Real Madrid though. Technically we are as both them and Osasuna own 50% economic rights each of the player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted Sunday at 14:37 Share Posted Sunday at 14:37 Does it mean that if he has a ridiculous World Cup that Real could decide they want to take him back before the start of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted Sunday at 14:37 Share Posted Sunday at 14:37 7 minutes ago, nufc123 said: So if he turns out to be amazing we sell way under his value? Whey if you believe the club are crazy. Who's Jake Jackman btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted Sunday at 14:38 Share Posted Sunday at 14:38 (edited) 1 minute ago, Geordie Magpie said: Technically we are as both them and Osasuna own 50% economic rights each of the player This is what I asked before. Do they actually own any of his contract? If so what's the source? Edited Sunday at 14:39 by Teasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted Sunday at 14:39 Share Posted Sunday at 14:39 I don't mind this as it gives the player some added incentive to perform well too. If he's played well enough for Real to want to activate the clause, then we've benefited from that on pitch and we haven't lost out financially on the transfer. In that scenario it's basically a glorified loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Sunday at 14:39 Share Posted Sunday at 14:39 49 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What Jake said. All depends on the release clause, fair enough if it's something like £100mil but makes no sense to have it for £30mil - basically what we would be paying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Sunday at 14:42 Share Posted Sunday at 14:42 4 minutes ago, Teasy said: Whey if you believe the club are crazy. Who's Jake Jackman btw? If the clause is low we dont have a choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted Sunday at 14:44 Share Posted Sunday at 14:44 what kind of spanish international would leave the toon just because real madrid comes calling? probably not the attitude we want tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Magpie Posted Sunday at 14:44 Share Posted Sunday at 14:44 5 minutes ago, Teasy said: This is what I asked before. Do they actually own any of his contract? If so what's the source? I've saw no source but it's very common practice in Spanish football co ownership and if Madrid were allowed to add a clause like that into the contract ( which as it stands is just rumours) then it would point to that being the case here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Sunday at 14:46 Share Posted Sunday at 14:46 3 minutes ago, Andy said: I don't mind this as it gives the player some added incentive to perform well too. If he's played well enough for Real to want to activate the clause, then we've benefited from that on pitch and we haven't lost out financially on the transfer. In that scenario it's basically a glorified loan. Can't build any sort of foundation that way though - loans are just a short term fix. Would assume take him some time to get used to the league as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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