Ben Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’ve little sympathy for defenders of Tommy Five Names tbf, and Wraith is pretty much the biggest wanker in the fanbase Holly something wasn't it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 20 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Are you implying you want that to happen if they won't budge? Is there any other fans forum where season ticket holders are actively loathed? It’s a bizarre trait of this place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: We’re a drinking club with a football problem From the sounds of it that was definitely the case for many pre-takeover, in that the bloody kick off got in the way of the drinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Ben said: Holly something wasn't it ? Blades Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Ben said: Holly something wasn't it ? Nee idea tbh - I've always found that whole scene a bit odd. I've little sympathy for grown adults in it, but I think daft kids deserve a pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 22 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Are you implying you want that to happen if they won't budge? No, not at all. I’m just saying that if we stay at SJP, then ticket prices will go up more than they would if we go to a new stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 23 minutes ago, Stifler said: No, not at all. I’m just saying that if we stay at SJP, then ticket prices will go up more than they would if we go to a new stadium. What are you basing that on? Haven't checked recently but last time I did ticket prices have generally gone up with clubs that have moved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: What are you basing that on? Haven't checked recently but last time I did ticket prices have generally gone up with clubs that have moved. They're going to go up significantly whether we stick or twist on the ground. The argument for a new stadium in that regard would be that the increased corporate, commercial (including stadium sponsorship) as well as increased seating numbers) would allow the club to offer some of the tickets at a 'reduced' cost. No guarantees on that front, of course. This is the way football has been going for yonks, of course. The support will be squeezed for every penny, and PSR makes this all the more likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Even at the time, that 10 year ambition freeze annoyed me. Not even keeping up with football inflation meant we were always going backwards on the pitch, yet it was applauded at the time by a lot in the press at the very least. And by a lot of fans to be fair. I would genuinely have rather paid more each year if it was reinvested in the team, not knowing back then that it never would have been anyway, and then less of a shock when they eventually went up. Point being, when prices go up drastically as they must, I wonder how many will walk away. I also wonder what our normal capacity would be in an average season once prices do get back to what they should have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Article in the ‘Ronnnniiiicurl about season ticket prices going up and NUST reckon there’s 10,000 people coming off long term deals at the end of this season Mad that a penny pinching cunt like Ashley was willing to let so many have a fixed price for a decade in a market where prices were constantly rising and he could have been into some tidy inflationary bunce Says all you need to know about how he was planning to let the club rot Edited January 22 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, Abacus said: Even at the time, that 10 year ambition freeze annoyed me. Not even keeping up with football inflation meant we were always going backwards on the pitch, yet it was applauded at the time by a lot in the press at the very least. And by a lot of fans to be fair. I would genuinely have rather paid more each year if it was reinvested in the team, not knowing back then that it never would have been anyway, and then less of a shock when they eventually went up. Point being, when prices go up drastically as they must, I wonder how many will walk away. I also wonder what our normal capacity would be in an average season once prices do get back to what they should have been. The ground will sell out, but I don't doubt that there is likely to be a turnover of those who attend - I'd be surprised if all 10k people continue if their STs double in price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Baffling there are fans on the deals actually not expecting their prices to match those not on deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Much higher ticket prices seem to be the natural response to PSR rules. Owners can no longer subsidise clubs, so every revenue stream must be max'd out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 21 minutes ago, LFEE said: Baffling there are fans on the deals actually not expecting their prices to match those not on deals. Don't think anyone thinks that but everyone has a price beyond which they'll say "no thanks" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, SteV said: It would probably be sensible if the club contacted everyone still on a deal and told them their tickets would be brought in to line with the standard price in that area from next season. Limit the inevitable whinging. I mean common sense should obviously tell you that will be the case, but clearly that’s not always in use… That's exactly what we are expecting. I expect pay to pay the same as the bloke who sits behind who isn't on the deal. We got an email at the time.e of last seasons renewal to say it was the last season of the freeze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, madras said: That's exactly what we are expecting. I expect pay to pay the same as the bloke who sits behind who isn't on the deal. We got an email at the time.e of last seasons renewal to say it was the last season of the freeze. Of course, and that’s what every sensible fair-minded fan in your position should expect. Obviously, no-one would not accept it if it was somehow cheaper for them, but I’d be baffled by anyone that genuinely expects that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, SteV said: Of course, and that’s what every sensible fair-minded fan in your position should expect. Obviously, no-one would not accept it if it was somehow cheaper for them, but I’d be baffled by anyone that genuinely expects that. I really don't think anyone will expect it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 My dad is turning 65 just as the scheme is coming to an end, the lucky sod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: They're going to go up significantly whether we stick or twist on the ground. The argument for a new stadium in that regard would be that the increased corporate, commercial (including stadium sponsorship) as well as increased seating numbers) would allow the club to offer some of the tickets at a 'reduced' cost. No guarantees on that front, of course. This is the way football has been going for yonks, of course. The support will be squeezed for every penny, and PSR makes this all the more likely. Again though, based on what? This thread always seems to throw these things out there without anything to back it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 One thing’s for sure, any STs that are relinquished due to not being willing to pay the going rate will go straight into the single game pool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Sima said: One thing’s for sure, any STs that are relinquished due to not being willing to pay the going rate will go straight into the single game pool. I can see why the club won't sell more season tickets. If the decision is to redevelop St James' then they will need to re sit ticket holders who are in areas effected by the works. The fewer the number then the easier of a task it would be. If we are moving, then the logistics of having season ticket holders visit the new stadium to select their new seat will be a huge task as well. ( assume that would happen, my Spuds supporting mate had the chance to visit their new stadium to choose where he would like to sit. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I'd imagine my 39 quid a month over 12 months will be going up to about 140 quid a month over 8 months. Can't really grumble had a brilliant run at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 If we are getting a 70k seater stadium or more, we should be getting more season ticket holders. We currently have an estimated 35k season ticket holders, that number should be pushed to 45k-50k in my opinion. We’ve already been over how Newcastle is a bit far out to expect there to be enough tourist demand like there is for the London and Manchester clubs. I’d also add, that season ticket holders should probably pay the same rate equal to single match tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 If I have to pay the same per game as someone who became a "fan" in 2022 I will tut my lips off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 32 minutes ago, Stifler said: If we are getting a 70k seater stadium or more, we should be getting more season ticket holders. We currently have an estimated 35k season ticket holders, that number should be pushed to 45k-50k in my opinion. We’ve already been over how Newcastle is a bit far out to expect there to be enough tourist demand like there is for the London and Manchester clubs. I’d also add, that season ticket holders should probably pay the same rate equal to single match tickets. Probably say around 42k would be mark if a 70k stadium. 60% of stadium on seasons tickets. Then up to 10% away fans, between 5%-10% corporate (if they’re counted those seats, which I assume they are for safety purposes), leaving circa 20% for members / general sale for lower cup games. Need to keep some gateway for new fans to get to games, having 70% season ticket would be daft. Seen the issues currently of getting tickets if 35k estimate is close (which is 70%+ of stadium). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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