St James' Park

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

On 31/01/2025 at 18:33, MagCA said:

Not sure who this fella is, or what I'm looking at, but some red lines and blue lines. An interesting yellow line too.

 

4 hours ago, The Butcher said:

 

 

Just thinking about the "will not creep into Leazes park as much and I thought".  

 

Maybe the yellow outline will actually be further along Barrack road to the right overlapping more with St James.

 

This would depend on:

- the time scale for demolishing the leases stand and putting a pitch where it is

- what the minimum capacity they would move to.  Assuming in total 70k even losing a 1/4 leaves 52.5k

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 16:01 by KetsbaiaIsBald

[TRon]

I know the PSR talk drives people up the wall, but until that restriction is lifted, being able to generate income is the only way to stay in touch with the top clubs, and a new ground seems to be a big factor in doing that, now and in the future.

 

As for the traditionalists, I can remember before John Hall you couldn't drag people to St James. I get the emotional attachment angle, it's genuine. But the reality is, a successful team is what gets people excited, not the football stadium. When Keegan transformed the club, suddenly there were 10,000 waiting lists for season tickets where previously you could walk in any game you liked. So anything which allows us to continue challenging for honours has to be a priority for me personally.

[toon25]

3 hours ago, LFEE said:

I’m not being an arse. Just shake my head at people moaning about the shape of it of all the things to consider! 
 

Big change in location, worse views and acoustics or locking out future generations and effect on the City in general etc I’m all for a debate. All the things that matter to the match going fan and those who spend their time in the city that would be effected, particularly a regular one should totally be on the table.

 

If I was being an arse I’d say why do you care what shape it is when you don’t go to the games even when offered tickets. That would be being an arse. But I didn’t  

 

So… Whats the problem with the stadium being a bowl shape? That was my question.

 

 

 

[UncleBingo]

43 minutes ago, TRon said:

I know the PSR talk drives people up the wall, but until that restriction is lifted, being able to generate income is the only way to stay in touch with the top clubs, and a new ground seems to be a big factor in doing that, now and in the future.

 

As for the traditionalists, I can remember before John Hall you couldn't drag people to St James. I get the emotional attachment angle, it's genuine. But the reality is, a successful team is what gets people excited, not the football stadium. When Keegan transformed the club, suddenly there were 10,000 waiting lists for season tickets where previously you could walk in any game you liked. So anything which allows us to continue challenging for honours has to be a priority for me personally.

This is my take on it as well, the SJP I grew up in is long gone, time to move forward. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to join the elite, we'd be mad not to take it.

[The Prophet]

Looking at the exact numbers, Spurs generated £123 million in match day revenue last year vs our £68 million.

 

Edit: on a sidenote, their commercial revenue was €297 million v our €90 million.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 17:02 by The Prophet

[Miggys First Goal]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Looking at the exact numbers, Apurs generated £123 million in match day revenue last year vs our £68 million.

And that should be the end of the argument. 

[Groundhog63]

Seems the biggest noises about staying put are coming from ST holders that are very happy with their lot. 

Seeing as the lack of atmosphere in the ground is down to ST holders, in the main, staying put is the only noise they make. 

 

 

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Looking at the exact numbers, Apurs generated £123 million in match day revenue last year vs our £68 million.

 

 

[The Prophet]

Was going off the Deloitte stuff fwiw.

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, The Prophet said:

Was going off the Deloitte stuff fwiw.

I just wanted to use the gif

[Sima]

Pitching the roof on a downward slope would go a long way towards keeping the noise inside.

[Turnbull2000]

Unless those figures have improved massively, we essentially remain much closer in competition with the likes of Wolves rather than Arsenal. We're miles off.

[Hovagod]

17 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Seems the biggest noises about staying put are coming from ST holders that are very happy with their lot. 

Seeing as the lack of atmosphere in the ground is down to ST holders, in the main, staying put is the only noise they make. 

 

 

Another way of looking at it would be that the people with season tickets currently are those that are likely to be in this new stadium if everything goes to shit and lots of others stop bothering/boycott again. And you can look at Spurs to see what a grim prospect that is

[TheHoob]

Be interested to see comparisons for stuff like concerts for a renewed St James vs a newly built stadium too, would imagine a state of the art stadium would have more chance of getting big stadium gigs Vs the SoL which would be good for the city too. 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Logic/sense and emotion are of course, not compatible. I see the arguments for the move mentioned, it makes sense to a degree. Denying peoples emotions when it comes to football is a slippery slope, though. Its what makes it what it is, not the numbers. 

[Yorkie]

Spurs' stadium move has done wonders for them competitively that's for sure. I don't know how we'll ever catch up to them whilst anchored in our ramshackle shit-tip of a stadium. 

[The Prophet]

17 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I just wanted to use the gif

 

[ExiledGeordie]

There’s no denying it, a new stadium and the ability to put on concerts and events irrespective of the match day revenue would be huge. 
 

Id rather a Dortmund-esque stadium rather than Munich’s. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 17:24 by ExiledGeordie

[Joelinton7]

27 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Seems the biggest noises about staying put are coming from ST holders that are very happy with their lot. 

Seeing as the lack of atmosphere in the ground is down to ST holders, in the main, staying put is the only noise they make. 

 

 

Let’s just have two stadiums. One with an atmosphere and one without. One with the louds and one with the quiets.

[Steve Charlton]

Hope they go north a bit to build it as there's space,Dont like this relocating chat one bit due to the uncertainty with Saudi's.

Will they be interested after 2030? Saudi vision,The World cup

[Gaztoon]

This prick been built yet.

[Chris_R]

27 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

 

 

 

As I've said before, if we've finished 4th, 7th, and then maybe top 6 this year we've every right to sign deals of the magnitude the other 6 have and just tell them to eat shit.

 

If we're averagint a top 6 position, we have a right to do top 6 deals even if they're related party deals.

[Turnbull2000]

2 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

As I've said before, if we've finished 4th, 7th, and then maybe top 6 this year we've every right to sign deals of the magnitude the other 6 have and just tell them to eat shit.

 

If we're averagint a top 6 position, we have a right to do top 6 deals even if they're related party deals.

 

The PL will probably argue we don't have the global fan base and brand to justify it.

[Stifler]

Bibs would be fucking pissed if we ended up playing a few games at Murrayfield. We would have to alternate with Hearts because Murrayfield is across the road from Tynecastle. So then if you’re in Edinburgh, and Newcastle are in town, or you could go and see Hibs, where the fuck are you going?

[Gaztoon]

Just now, Turnbull2000 said:

 

The PL will probably argue we don't have the global fan base and brand to justify it.

 

Or we  can't sign deals with companies with the letter A In its name.