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3 hours ago, Danh1 said:

Would rather we take our time to get it right than rush it through. It’s clear that progress is being made behind the scenes and as much as I would love to know officially what’s going on and whether we are staying or going, I’d rather know when there’s a solid plan in place. 
 

Don’t see the point in a box ticking “consulting the fans” exercise. 

 

Exactly, this is a 5-10 year project.  They have to take their time.

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11 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Take it with a pinch of salt, but I was speaking to one of the players yesterday, and they think it's going to be 10-12 years before a new stadium is complete.

 

Did they have a view on the feasibility of moving Leazers Terrace onto the tennis courts, brick by brick ?

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17 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Take it with a pinch of salt, but I was speaking to one of the players yesterday, and they think it's going to be 10-12 years before a new stadium is complete.

Just in time for Isaks testimonial.

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1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Take it with a pinch of salt, but I was speaking to one of the players yesterday, and they think it's going to be 10-12 years before a new stadium is complete.

Whilst I enjoy hearing players opinions on football related things, land acquisition, planning permission, architectural design phases, structural engineering planning as well as working alongside local authorities and builders isn't necessarily their forte. 

 

 

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5 years should be the maximum amount of time. Even the Bernabau got done just under that amount of time (during Covid, whether that's a plus or minus)

 

75k is the magic number

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1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Take it with a pinch of salt, but I was speaking to one of the players yesterday, and they think it's going to be 10-12 years before a new stadium is complete.

Strong chance I'll be dead by then. Might get my ashes scattered on the 5th tier concourse. Bairn can fill his pockets with carbon me then pull the string he's tied up holes he made in them.

Ashes will simply fall out the bottom of his bell bottomed trousers and no one will be any the wiser. A la The Great Escape. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Take it with a pinch of salt, but I was speaking to one of the players yesterday, and they think it's going to be 10-12 years before a new stadium is complete.

 

If that's what gets announced this year then I'd wager it will never happen at all. 

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25 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

5 years should be the maximum amount of time. Even the Bernabau got done just under that amount of time (during Covid, whether that's a plus or minus)

 

75k is the magic number

 

Five years for a new build? No chance.

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28 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

5 years should be the maximum amount of time. Even the Bernabau got done just under that amount of time (during Covid, whether that's a plus or minus)

 

75k is the magic number

 

It took nearly 10 years to get from initial planning stage to them actually starting the redevelopment of it.

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It all depends on how capable the design team are.

 

For a brand new site, why couldn't the build take under 5 years? Spurs new ground didn't take more than that iirc.

 

Everton's the same.

 

Modern building techniques can take a lot of time off total construction time. It really depends on what the unique selling point of the stadium will be.

 

Sustainability, energy efficient, multi purpose etc. The more bells and whistles will add time.

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How long would it take on the arena site if we pre-fabbed it and brought it along the Tyne with a fuck off banner that says "the river will rise again" and the Wor Flags banner with the Big River lyrics on it?

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3 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Take it with a pinch of salt, but I was speaking to one of the players yesterday, and they think it's going to be 10-12 years before a new stadium is complete.

So probably 15 to 20. They'll know as much as we don

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Because I have no background in architecture, planning regulations, design or construction, I'm going to throw in a pointless guess too - 9 years, to align with the 2034 world cup.

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18 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

It all depends on how capable the design team are.

 

For a brand new site, why couldn't the build take under 5 years? Spurs new ground didn't take more than that iirc.

 

Everton's the same.

 

Modern building techniques can take a lot of time off total construction time. It really depends on what the unique selling point of the stadium will be.

 

Sustainability, energy efficient, multi purpose etc. The more bells and whistles will add time.

 

Planning, consultations, environmental studies and plenty more obstacles will likely take 1-2 years to get through. Then there'll be a technical design process lasting a couple of years after that (unless they've already started behind the scenes) Then a phased build of around 3-4 years. I'd be surprised if we have a new ground before 2032.

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As a useful measure of new stadium construction time, the new builds for the Qatar world cup took between 4-7 years from breaking ground to opening

 

And then you have to add the years of planning approvals, design work etc at the front end before you're even allowed to stick a shovel in the soil

 

 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

 

Planning, consultations, environmental studies and plenty more obstacles will likely take 1-2 years to get through. Then there'll be a technical design process lasting a couple of years after that (unless they've already started behind the scenes) Then a phased build of around 3-4 years. I'd be surprised if we have a new ground before 2032.

 

Still not too bad considering the previous strategy was to stay in SJP and let it crumble to dust. 

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7 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

As a useful measure of new stadium construction time, the new builds for the Qatar world cup took between 4-7 years from breaking ground to opening

 

And then you have to add the years of planning approvals, design work etc at the front end before you're even allowed to stick a shovel in the soil

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wouldn't a more useful measure be stadiums bult in this country rather than the searing heat of Qatar? Everton's stadium has taken 4 years, with the first year being preparing and filling the dock, so actually more like 3 years. Spurs' stadium took 3 years. The Emirates took 2 years. 2-3 years from breaking ground seems realistic.

 

 

 

 

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According to Wiki, Spurs timeline was,

 

Oct 2013: Club considering new stadium,

July 2015: Club reveal plans,

December 2015: Council grant planning permission, 

Construction: 2016-2019 (early clearing and foundation work in 2014 and 2015.

 

Potentially double that seems excessive, especially when we're already a year or so into consideration and possibly plans. 

 

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