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It looks crap but I find it hard to get worked up about it. So the stadium's covered in branding. Just like the rest of the western world, then.

 

The rest of the western world gets fucking paid for it.

 

Someone pays you to wear your trainers/hoodie/shirt/hat/whatever?

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Hilarious seeing all the Yanks on here and Twitter almost justifying what he is doing because it is the norm in their consumerist armpit of a nation.

 

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Which nation covers the front of their sports team jerseys with a huge sponsor again?

 

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Hilarious seeing all the Yanks on here and Twitter almost justifying what he is doing because it is the norm in their consumerist armpit of a nation.

 

:facepalm:

 

Which nation covers the front of their sports team jerseys with a huge sponsor again?

 

I would rather football clubs remain football clubs, not 'franchises'.

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Hilarious seeing all the Yanks on here and Twitter almost justifying what he is doing because it is the norm in their consumerist armpit of a nation.

 

:facepalm:

 

Which nation covers the front of their sports team jerseys with a huge sponsor again?

 

I would rather football clubs remain football clubs, not 'franchises'.

 

Nice dodge.

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Hardly a dodge. Football in this country has a heritage. 'Franchises' and the MLS are nothing but businesses. I like to think there is still something 'spiritual' within English football - that many Americans would never understand.

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Hardly a dodge. Football in this country has a heritage. 'Franchises' and the MLS are nothing but businesses. I like to think there is still something 'spiritual' within English football - that many Americans would never understand.

 

I wish some spiritual bastard would cough up the money and buy the club so it could be run according to our heritage then.

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Hardly a dodge. Football in this country has a heritage. 'Franchises' and the MLS are nothing but businesses. I like to think there is still something 'spiritual' within English football - that many Americans would never understand.

 

I wish some spiritual bastard would cough up the money and buy the club so it could be run according to our heritage then.

 

It lives within the fans. Then there are the likes of Jack Walker and numberous owners in the football league who actually care about the clubs they manage/own...

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Hardly a dodge. Football in this country has a heritage. 'Franchises' and the MLS are nothing but businesses. I like to think there is still something 'spiritual' within English football - that many Americans would never understand.

 

I wish some spiritual bastard would cough up the money and buy the club so it could be run according to our heritage then.

 

It lives within the fans. Then there are the likes of Jack Walker and numberous owners in the football league who actually care about the clubs they manage/own...

 

Good lord. What a delightful wind-up. :lol:

 

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Hardly a dodge. Football in this country has a heritage. 'Franchises' and the MLS are nothing but businesses. I like to think there is still something 'spiritual' within English football - that many Americans would never understand.

 

I wish some spiritual bastard would cough up the money and buy the club so it could be run according to our heritage then.

 

It lives within the fans. Then there are the likes of Jack Walker and numberous owners in the football league who actually care about the clubs they manage/own...

 

So you think the fans in Seattle decided to move their basketball team to Oklahoma then? :lol:

 

That's probably why the city of Seattle still keeps all the names, titles and records of the Sonics then. Because, you know, Americans don't understand heritage and that sort of thing.

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Hardly a dodge. Football in this country has a heritage. 'Franchises' and the MLS are nothing but businesses. I like to think there is still something 'spiritual' within English football - that many Americans would never understand.

 

You know, you're absolutely right. Baseball hasn't been woven into the fabric of America for well over 100 years or anything.

 

"In our sun-down perambulations, of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing "base," a certain game of ball...Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman, 1846

 

It's possible to separate the rampant commercialism from the purer sides of the sport. It can be difficult when you're watching Rays' Baseball presented by Joe's Crab Shack live from Tropicana Field , but all you need to look at is Monument Park in Yankee Stadium or the ivy on the walls at Wrigley, the Green Monster at Fenway Park or imagine Kirk Gibson's famous home run at Dodger Stadium with Vin Scully's unparalleled voice describing it. The history and the moments of the game will outlive every corporate sponsor, every tacky billboard, and every Pregame Show brought to you by Castrol GTX.

 

That being said, the Sports Direct s*** looks tacky and, like others have said, it's a lot harder to take when it's not making the club any richer.

 

 

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Hardly a dodge. Football in this country has a heritage. 'Franchises' and the MLS are nothing but businesses. I like to think there is still something 'spiritual' within English football - that many Americans would never understand.

 

I've no time for the UK rushing headlong to be like the evil empire of the US.

 

But...

 

we have a far more "free market" football culture where the rich get bigger, richer, and more powerful. I've no interest in American Football, but they at least appreciate the attraction of a level sporting field - hence the worst teams get first pick of the best new players, and you don't get a handful of teams dominating.

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Hardly a dodge. Football in this country has a heritage. 'Franchises' and the MLS are nothing but businesses. I like to think there is still something 'spiritual' within English football - that many Americans would never understand.

 

I've no time for the UK rushing headlong to be like the evil empire of the US.

 

But...

 

we have a far more "free market" football culture where the rich get bigger, richer more powerful. I've no interest in American Football, but they at least appreciate the attraction of a level sporting field - hence the worst teams get first pick of the best new players, and you don't get a handful of teams dominating.

 

See, I like that concept and I don't like that concept.  Negatives: it smacks of just giving everyone a turn rather than building a club and it arguably rewards failure.

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If it's a choice between the US system where everyone gets a turn or the british system where only 3-4 teams max get a turn, i'll take the US system thanks.

 

Well what I'd really want is a return to the cycles of success pre-Sky but it's so money-orientated now that that seems long gone.

 

A worldwide wage cap (something 'modest' like £40k/week after tax) with TV revenues evenly spread might even things out a bit, but it's impossible to enforce.  It will be interesting to see the effect of the financial fair play rules but I suspect the effects will be minimal at best.

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If it's a choice between the US system where everyone gets a turn or the british system where only 3-4 teams max get a turn, i'll take the US system thanks.

 

Well what I'd really want is a return to the cycles of success pre-Sky but it's so money-orientated now that that seems long gone.

 

A worldwide wage cap (something 'modest' like £40k/week after tax) with TV revenues evenly spread might even things out a bit, but it's impossible to enforce.  It will be interesting to see the effect of the financial fair play rules but I suspect the effects will be minimal at best.

 

Looking back on it and trying to be objective, barring crowd bother, 70's/80's football seemed to be the best by a long way, especially in terms of "who's going to win what? etc."

 

Wouldn't suprise me if in 10 years there is a Euro Superleague given the way La Liga & the Prem are going.

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