St James' Park

[macphisto]

Not sure how serious this proposal is but one option for Man U is to knock the stadium down and rebuild.

 

If we stay where we are then I wouldn't be surprised if we went down this road. Obviously there's the problem of where do we play whilst it's rebuilt?

 

 

[RodneyCisse]

1 hour ago, macphisto said:

Not sure how serious this proposal is but one option for Man U is to knock the stadium down and rebuild.

 

If we stay where we are then I wouldn't be surprised if we went down this road. Obviously there's the problem of where do we play whilst it's rebuilt?

 

 

It’s easy for Man U, they can just play at Wembley and it would just mean their fans don’t have to travel as far for the matches.

[Guest HTT II]

1 hour ago, macphisto said:

Not sure how serious this proposal is but one option for Man U is to knock the stadium down and rebuild.

 

If we stay where we are then I wouldn't be surprised if we went down this road. Obviously there's the problem of where do we play whilst it's rebuilt?

 

 

Why can’t they just modernise it? It would be far cheaper to do so surely.

[Kanj]

Their stadium looks so shit from that angle

[Whitley mag]

Think we could pull something off like this by starting the new stadium structure where the Leazes car park currently is, and moving the foot print of the stadium away from Leazes Terrace. Would be complicated keeping SJP open during the rebuild, but with this lot anything is possible.

[Izakaya]

Genuinely never realised how shit Old Trafford looks. It's a mess. 

[nufcjb]

 

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

No. That font is still as shit as the first time it opened.

[Cookie1892]

16 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

No. That font is still as shit as the first time it opened.

is it not his signature style?

[Kanj]

Nope. 

[Kid Icarus]

It's extremely 90s like. Should have got Ash Willerton to do it.

[Cookie1892]

problem wi Man Utds ground as well is there is a canal on one side and a major trainline on the other?

[Ameritoon]

Wasn't sure if it was an unpopular opinion but glad to see others don't like the sign. Definitely thought they would improve it. Still nice to see tho.

[Stifler]

Would have preferred red lettering to go with our shirts. Blue is just overdone and quite tacky.

[manorpark]

3 minutes ago, Ameritoon said:

Wasn't sure if it was an unpopular opinion but glad to see others don't like the sign. Definitely thought they would improve it. Still nice to see tho.

 

The sign being exactly the same as it used to be is a big part (for me) of letting our former owner know exactly what we think of him and what he did with this.

 

Shearer's is B A C K as if it had never gone away !!!!!!

 

 

[madras]

31 minutes ago, Ameritoon said:

Wasn't sure if it was an unpopular opinion but glad to see others don't like the sign. Definitely thought they would improve it. Still nice to see tho.

Honestly couldn't give a toss. Hope they've got better beers in there mind.

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

It looks like the bar near some shite out-of-town identikit stadium I've been to - I think Wigan. For anyone that's been, it's that one between the car/coach park and the ground.

[Kid Icarus]

On 16/03/2022 at 17:15, Kid Icarus said:

It's extremely 90s like. Should have got Ash Willerton to do it.

 

Get this man on the case.

 

 

[80]

The original is much better than his effort. Not that I want it changed in the slightest, but if I did, I'd go for a more radical redo than his thing.

 

I'm no expert in this stuff, but I don't understand why 'digital times' mean images need to be less detailed and more homogenous. And fuck it, if we're going to be the richest club in the world, presumably we can afford to stand out from the pack and develop imagery around aesthetic ideals and luxury, rather than being pushed around by marketing budgets and design graduates.

 

Re Shearer's, on one hand, I agree with @manorpark. Respect to the owners for trying to clean the club and restore it to better times. I think they're doing their best.

 

That said, I never thought Shearer's should've existed in the first place. It was a huge sign of the club going in the wrong direction fast at the time, with Freddie Shepherd clinging on to selling a fading cult of personality alongside Graeme Souness rather than developing the fundamentals of the club as Robson had wanted to.

 

It was the kind of thinking that brought us Michael Owen and proper football. In a roundabout way it was one of the things that set us up as marks for Mike Ashley to later target. December 2004. Bad memories.

 

 

Edited March 26, 2022 by 80

[Dr Venkman]

Not sure we can blame Shearer’s bar for the decline of the club. 

[80]

No, the point is it was emblematic of the thinking that caused the decline of the club.

[80]

And I do think we can blame the decline of the club on it backing Shearer over Robson in their conflict...

[Kid Icarus]

39 minutes ago, 80 said:

The original is much better than his effort. Not that I want it changed in the slightest, but if I did, I'd go for a more radical redo than his thing.

 

I'm no expert in this stuff, but I don't understand why 'digital times' mean images need to be less detailed and more homogenous. And fuck it, if we're going to be the richest club in the world, presumably we can afford to stand out from the pack and develop imagery around aesthetic ideals and luxury, rather than being pushed around by marketing budgets and design graduates.

 

Re Shearer's, on one hand, I agree with @manorpark. Respect to the owners for trying to clean the club and restore it to better times. I think they're doing their best.

 

That said, I never thought Shearer's should've existed in the first place. It was a huge sign of the club going in the wrong direction fast at the time, with Freddie Shepherd clinging on to selling a fading cult of personality alongside Graeme Souness rather than developing the fundamentals of the club as Robson had wanted to.

 

It was the kind of thinking that brought us Michael Owen and proper football. In a roundabout way it was one of the things that set us up as marks for Mike Ashley to later target. December 2004. Bad memories.

 

 

 

Accessibility and readability are a fundamental part of good digital content design basically. If you create something that's either a visual mess or completely inaccessible or unreadable for any demographic then you're essentially excluding them from it.

 

Personally I think he's done a fantastic job there and essentially just cleaned the badge up without compromising the original design. The only real big change is the rope (I forget its proper name) being arched.

[80]

16 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Accessibility and readability are a fundamental part of good digital content design basically. If you create something that's either a visual mess or completely inaccessible or unreadable for any demographic then you're essentially excluding them from it.

 

Personally I think he's done a fantastic job there and essentially just cleaned the badge up without compromising the original design. The only real big change is the rope (I forget its proper name) being arched.

 

Not being argumentative, I just genuinely don't get it. What is there that is hard to access on our current crest? If someone can't read 'Newcastle United' on the current crest, I'd say there's a 99% chance they can't read it on this guy's crest. And that's just a font, at the end of the day.

 

Did you think the crest was a visual mess when you were 14? Why did no one spot what a mess it was in 1992?

 

Why do all the lines need to share the same thickness and be less intricate? Who does that exclude? Again, I literally don't get it.

 

I don't outright hate what he's done, for what it's worth. But where you see clean, I see sterile. Same thing, different emphasis.

 

Previously, all the justifications I've heard for this have related to cost effectiveness of reproduction on marketing material, and ease of copywriting (yucky capitalism, Kid).

[Wandy]

1 hour ago, 80 said:

The original is much better than his effort. Not that I want it changed in the slightest, but if I did, I'd go for a more radical redo than his thing.

 

I'm no expert in this stuff, but I don't understand why 'digital times' mean images need to be less detailed and more homogenous. And fuck it, if we're going to be the richest club in the world, presumably we can afford to stand out from the pack and develop imagery around aesthetic ideals and luxury, rather than being pushed around by marketing budgets and design graduates.

 

Re Shearer's, on one hand, I agree with @manorpark. Respect to the owners for trying to clean the club and restore it to better times. I think they're doing their best.

 

That said, I never thought Shearer's should've existed in the first place. It was a huge sign of the club going in the wrong direction fast at the time, with Freddie Shepherd clinging on to selling a fading cult of personality alongside Graeme Souness rather than developing the fundamentals of the club as Robson had wanted to.

 

It was the kind of thinking that brought us Michael Owen and proper football. In a roundabout way it was one of the things that set us up as marks for Mike Ashley to later target. December 2004. Bad memories.

 

 

 

Couldn’t agree more. I have never been a fan of it being called Shearer’s and actually preferred it being called Nine Bar. It was one of the few things that Ashley did that I agreed with. I don’t think a player or manager should be celebrated in any part of a stadium with renaming etc until they have passed away, to be honest.