ponsaelius Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 minute ago, SteV said: Could they just shut it to the public but still have trains run through it to make the necessary track adjustments? If you're going to do that you might as well just keep it open then as you're still going to have to build over it. There's only really a constructional/logistical benefit if you can just fill the whole thing in with concrete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 As Stifler says the station functions as the line terminus and as such I'm pretty sure it allows the trains to turn round and swap sides. I think you would need to make underground changes to Monument too if you wanted to close St James Metro - which could equally be an issue and expense. Might be wrong like. Personally think it would be great to see the station incorporated into an expansion and mixed use development. The station is becoming more of a gateway as that part of the city is developed - but at the moment is a grubby departure point. Club investment is a great opportunity to instigate positive externalities for the city and things like transport infrastructure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, Stifler said: Might have problems with trains being able to change sides. They could change sides just after Manors if needs be. They’ve done it before when St James has been closed. That way they simply can use both platforms at monument for trains going back over the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 One things for sure the redevelopment of the Gallowgate will be done to the highest standard when it comes about. Personally hope it’s not a mirror image of the Leazes and we can maybe have some huge single tier sweeping stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Here for a tour this morning, happened to spot some club legends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Whitley mag said: One things for sure the redevelopment of the Gallowgate will be done to the highest standard when it comes about. Personally hope it’s not a mirror image of the Leazes and we can maybe have some huge single tier sweeping stand. Issue with a single tier sweep stand (if I've understood what you mean) would mean the closure of it for some while. Liverpools build around and over thing while it continues to be used would be best for us I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cort Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Re Leazes Terrace: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Christ can you imagine that? Loads of charvers trying to run underneath it on the march to Beamish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Cort said: Re Leazes Terrace: problem solved! we can walk Leazes Terrace straight into the sea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Cort said: Re Leazes Terrace: Game changer this PIF will be all over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Some dubious capacity figures but interesting non the less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianSwan Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Why are you guys not just building brand new 75-80k seater stadium? Stadium expenditure doesn't affect FFP but stadiums contributes to revenue in money generated. Surely any rich owner therefore would just build a big F off staidum and use the ticket sales to generate money for FFP. 1 Billion in London = Spurs stadium, 1 Billion in Newcastle =? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, BrianSwan said: Why are you guys not just building brand new 75-80k seater stadium? Stadium expenditure doesn't affect FFP but stadiums contributes to revenue in money generated. Surely any rich owner therefore would just build a big F off staidum and use the ticket sales to generate money for FFP. 1 Billion in London = Spurs stadium, 1 Billion in Newcastle =? Because unlike other clubs, our stadium is intricately woven into the city, both historically as well as physically location wise. It’s more important to extend SJP to 60-70k than to build someplace else for a capacity of 80k. The benefits we might get for a slightly bigger capacity would be negated by moving (imo). Plus the owners have already stated they don’t want to move from SJP if at all possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Cort said: Re Leazes Terrace: Just came in to post that as was on my timeline too. Technology so clever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 hours ago, BrianSwan said: Why are you guys not just building brand new 75-80k seater stadium? Stadium expenditure doesn't affect FFP but stadiums contributes to revenue in money generated. Surely any rich owner therefore would just build a big F off staidum and use the ticket sales to generate money for FFP. 1 Billion in London = Spurs stadium, 1 Billion in Newcastle =? We have a stadium that’s slap bang in the city centre so it’s an amazing location, that’s why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, bobbydazzla said: We have a stadium that’s slap bang in the city centre so it’s an amazing location, that’s why and great for the local economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianSwan Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Coming to St James Park soon. Celtic fans are always the best when the music hits, I think you guys will rival them for noise and excitement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pups Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 8 hours ago, BrianSwan said: Why are you guys not just building brand new 75-80k seater stadium? Stadium expenditure doesn't affect FFP but stadiums contributes to revenue in money generated. Surely any rich owner therefore would just build a big F off staidum and use the ticket sales to generate money for FFP. 1 Billion in London = Spurs stadium, 1 Billion in Newcastle =? because the owners have said they want to stay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pups Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 08/04/2023 at 08:16, Whitley mag said: One things for sure the redevelopment of the Gallowgate will be done to the highest standard when it comes about. Personally hope it’s not a mirror image of the Leazes and we can maybe have some huge single tier sweeping stand. Let's say they go with the original idea and plant the foundations beyond the metro, obviously that structure is going to be HUGE but I also believe that it would still be level with the rest of the stadium. That means the stand itself would have far less of an incline (like a giant Kop). My question would be would they knock down the whole gallowgate and start again? or would it just be the new upper tier that extends way further back at a different angle? aesthetically that would be a bit weird. If the new tier continued at the same incline as the gallowgate we'd be talking way above level 7 which is probably somewhere just below the troposphere. Also the original plans didn't include the Gallowgate West Corner as I believe this was the most problematic area where the metro is concerned underneath. That means the 7000+ had to come from the gallowgate extra tier alone (the leazes top tier has just over 3000 if you don't include the corner, not a lot considering it's mammoth height) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just reading some west ham fans on twitter who are chucking there season tickets because of how soulless their ground is. Plenty already have Would hate that to be us in years to come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Adam said: Some dubious capacity figures but interesting non the less. Shaka’s Geordie-Trinidadian hybrid accent Who’s the other pundit? Mark McGhee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whitley mag Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Mr Pups said: Let's say they go with the original idea and plant the foundations beyond the metro, obviously that structure is going to be HUGE but I also believe that it would still be level with the rest of the stadium. That means the stand itself would have far less of an incline (like a giant Kop). My question would be would they knock down the whole gallowgate and start again? or would it just be the new upper tier that extends way further back at a different angle? aesthetically that would be a bit weird. If the new tier continued at the same incline as the gallowgate we'd be talking way above level 7 which is probably somewhere just below the troposphere. Also the original plans didn't include the Gallowgate West Corner as I believe this was the most problematic area where the metro is concerned underneath. That means the 7000+ had to come from the gallowgate extra tier alone (the leazes top tier has just over 3000 if you don't include the corner, not a lot considering it's mammoth height) Aye a 3k increase wouldn’t be feasible or worthwhile, I was sure original plans must have included SW corner aswell. Still think it’s going to take something spectacular and very expensive to get St James anywhere near 65k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Mr Pups said: Also the original plans didn't include the Gallowgate West Corner as I believe this was the most problematic area where the metro is concerned underneath. That means the 7000+ had to come from the gallowgate extra tier alone (the leazes top tier has just over 3000 if you don't include the corner, not a lot considering it's mammoth height) Surely more than that, isn't it nearer 5,000? The away allocation never goes round the corner and I'm sure we've seen 5k away allocations in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Surely more than that, isn't it nearer 5,000? The away allocation never goes round the corner and I'm sure we've seen 5k away allocations in the past There is 6 straight blocks in level 7 before it turns into a corner and 5 of them are used for a full premier league away allocation which is about 3k so I reckon it would be about 3500 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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