OpenC Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) No, but I think that's what would probably happen. That's why I brought it up. Edited August 12, 2023 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I’ll get pedantic (yes, I know the Quayside isn’t really the city centre ) Though the arena would be closer to most of the city’s watering holes. Not sure what being closer to Eldon Square means in terms of a matchday experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I think if they decide on a new stadium, it would be a very lucky escape to get the arena site. So many worse possibilities. The way the train passes the Emirates is really cool, so that would be nice too. Obviously would prefer to stay put but being able to build a stadium without closing the existing one must be pretty attractive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 If it’s any help, that entire area is already planned and ready for redevelopment. I should know as it’s my organisation who’ve helped get developers onboard for the land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) That map must have been done before Northumberland Street became the city's tertiary sector CBD. Yes, I did GCSE Geography. Edited August 12, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Monument is the real city centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimusSlime Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 That area down by the arena is grim - you can’t wait to get away from it if you ever go to an event at the arena. No amount of shiny new buildings I suspect would make me want to spend time there. I can’t say I ever fancy a walk around e.g . the redeveloped brewery/science city area and you could tell me there is a great bar or coffee place there and I wouldn’t bother as it’s soulless. Hoping and expecting expansion in some way and that we avoid joining the list of clubs who have left their historic ground for a stadium. I went to Old Trafford for the England match a few months ago, had never been there before but you could feel the history of the ground(which I would add is worse in a whole host of ways then current SJP). Conversely when went to Wembley it felt like the Metro Centre. Appreciate I may be in a minority but I am passionately, unconditionally against leaving SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Newcastle fans drinking down the scene before going to watch a Saudi owned club. Journalists heads exploding AOTS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Not sure what being closer to Eldon Square means in terms of a matchday experience. It’s close to the cities two busiest local bus stations, and is close to 2 of the busiest city centre Metro stations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: That map must have been done before Northumberland Street became the city's tertiary sector CBD. Yes, I did GCSE Geography. As did I - and I was only kidding (Google maps isn’t any source of truth) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, OpenC said: Yeah, I know. I was kidding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 What I will say though is that part of the takeover push was the notion of ‘regional investment’, if I remember correctly. Tarting up that part of the city wouldn’t be the worst way of doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 As i understand it basically the Reubens are in charge of that side of it with Saudi backing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Having listened to Eales on the radio on Thursday, and watched the first episode of the Amazon documentary, I'm fairly sure that they have no plans to relocate away from the current area of the city centre. Eales was waxing lyrical about the cathedral on the hill, and I think they do truly place a lot of significance on that prime location, so I think they will try everything they can to get 65k out of the current footprint. If that's not possible then they may have a Leazes Park contingency plan. I just don't see the Arena site happening, and I'm less sure that I'd want it anymore tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: The arena is roughly the same distance from the city centre as SJP From the Civic Centre to the Swing Bridge and Plummer Tower to the Discovery Museum, I guess the geographical centre of Newcastle would be Bigg Market/Grainger Street. On that basis, St.James's Park is probably abiut a 2 minute walk closer to the centre than the Arena. The Arena site 'feels' a lot more remote because it's undeveloped/underdeveloped. A stadium with football campus, infrastructural enhancements and landacaping, would transform the local economy and change people's perception of that area entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said: MBS? Yep. Met him through work. Was incredibly engaged about the whole NUFC project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, TomYam said: From the Civic Centre to the Swing Bridge and Plummer Tower to the Discovery Museum, I guess the geographical centre of Newcastle would be Bigg Market/Grainger Street. On that basis, St.James's Park is probably abiut a 2 minute walk closer to the centre than the Arena. The Arena site 'feels' a lot more remote because it's undeveloped/underdeveloped. A stadium with football campus, infrastructural enhancements and landacaping, would transform the local economy and change people's perception of that area entirely. St James' Park is in the City Centre, whereas Newcastle Arena is "on the edge" of the City Centre and feels more remote and more like it is actually outside of the city centre for the reason TomYam mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Not sure 65k is enough, you could fill that just with new ST holders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Wandy said: Having listened to Eales on the radio on Thursday, and watched the first episode of the Amazon documentary, I'm fairly sure that they have no plans to relocate away from the current area of the city centre. Eales was waxing lyrical about the cathedral on the hill, and I think they do truly place a lot of significance on that prime location, so I think they will try everything they can to get 65k out of the current footprint. If that's not possible then they may have a Leazes Park contingency plan. I just don't see the Arena site happening, and I'm less sure that I'd want it anymore tbh. Could dump 500ft of rubble on the site then build the stadium on top. Might need some large escalators though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 It be good if they could lower the roof on the new stadium so if it was lower attended game it would still keep the atmosphere decent. So in effect changing the capacity to suite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Not sure 65k is enough, you could fill that just with new ST holders. We currently have around 30k season ticket holders. You really think we'd easily sell another 35k after the inevitable price hike next year? No chance IMO. 65k would be absolutely fine going forward. Another 13k STs sold through the increase and the rest going to general/members sale. Any more than that and it will be to the detriment of the atmosphere and leave the ground looking silly for things like League Cup ties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Do we have any poindexters on here that could photoshop the Atlanta stadium onto the Arena site ? To scale mind ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 It's very difficult to judge crowd sizes in the future, 20/30yrs from now we will be under new owners who maybe another Ashley or the present young ones such as the just stop oil pillocks and the equivalent who will be in power then may well reduce stadium attendances or prevent people from moving from one area to another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Was the addition of the fire - perilously close to the surfers an attempt to burn down the East Stand and force the hand of the planning department? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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