St James' Park

[Infatuation Junkie]

15 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

 

 

Aye, has to stay there, for me. We might get a bigger stadium elsewhere but if I walk to that spot one day and it's not there I'll be devastated. Just feels so perfect. 

It can stay there. Training and development centre for sports excellence.

 

 

[NSG]

33 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Stadium and infrastructure now counts towards FFP under UEFA rules, and the Premier League are set to follow.

Find it hard for that to be the case as you’d be mixing capital and revenue expenditure. 

[nufcjb]

My personal options and choice from Day 1 after the takeover should we need to relocate.

 

1. The club/owners help upgrade Gateshead International Stadium up to a temporary Premier League/Champions League standards (since our kids played PSG there the other day too). We play there while SJP gets demolished and rebuilt on current site. When we move back in, bring down the capacity at Gateshead International but leave all the other stuff for them for their own future use (facilities wise).

 

2. Move up the road to Leazes Park and turn current stadium site into a modern green park. Castle Leazes would also be an option if not Leazes Park.

 

3. Move to the arena site if at all possible and build something quite spectacular there.

 

I would not consider any other options

 

 

Edited October 6, 2023 by nufcjb

[Kid Icarus]

8 hours ago, Wandy said:

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/10/06/newcastle-united-st-james-park-expansion-65000-capacity/

 

They can squeeze an extra tier onto the East Stand, but only if St James' Terrace bites the dust.

 

Just build a new stadium man, it makes much more sense.

 

Sorry where does it say that?

[Wolfcastle]

3 hours ago, Stifler said:

Stadium and infrastructure now counts towards FFP under UEFA rules, and the Premier League are set to follow.

I've read that, probably on here, but it surely cant be as it reads - nobody will ever be able to build a new stadium from this point forth and you'd be nuts with a stretched budged to expand too.

Its so ridiculously restrictive - you cant expand even though you can afford it, it makes perfect business sense, is good for the economy and the demand is there just because - that in football, with the utter fear of threats to the establishment, I can well imagine it.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Wolfcastle

[Doctor Zaius]

6 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Sorry where does it say that?

 

St James Terrace is Grade II listed anyway. It's not biting the dust 

[ExiledGeordie]

I think it makes sense to stay at St James if they can do it. Im a bit of a romantic so will always veer towards maintaining the history and unique aspect of the cathedral on the hill. 
 

I think adding 13k of seats would allow a decent number of additional season tickets plus more match by match tickets. The atmosphere would be outrageous too. 

[Fezzle]

19 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

I think it makes sense to stay at St James if they can do it. Im a bit of a romantic so will always veer towards maintaining the history and unique aspect of the cathedral on the hill. 
 

I think adding 13k of seats would allow a decent number of additional season tickets plus more match by match tickets. The atmosphere would be outrageous too. 

Unfortunately the cost and actual process would also be outrageous. That's been be the biggest issue for a long time

[AJ9]

1 hour ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

St James Terrace is Grade II listed anyway. It's not biting the dust 

But what if we move it brick by brick to beamish?

[Superior Acuña]

It's behind a payall for me. Is it saying the East Stand expansion is somehow feasible?  

I want this so bad and ASAP, I need back in!

 

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Superior Acuña

[NEEJ]

Just now, Superior Acuña said:

It's behind a payall for me. Is it saying the East Stand expansion is somehow feasible? 

It's an article with no new information. Just says they'd like to bring the East Stand and Gallowgate up to the level of the Leazes/Milburn. 

[Bally21]

As much as I hate to say it, I think we will leave SJP.

 

My preference would be to build new stadium in leazes Park, and then replace the lost parkland by making the old SJP site a park.

 

There are probably barriers regarding building on parkland, etc - but if it could be done then the ground would be within 200 yards of the old ground, so a lot of the matchday feel would be the same.

 

If above is not possible then the arena site would be good.

[Keegans Export]

10 hours ago, Stifler said:

Stadium and infrastructure now counts towards FFP under UEFA rules, and the Premier League are set to follow.

That was originally the idea but I think they scrapped it in the end didn't they? Now it's just wages, transfer fees and agent payments as a percentage of revenue.

[Anderson]

Stiffy just making stuff up again and passing it off as fact is it?  

[Rich]

I have to admit I thought it was the case as well, like, or that it was coming in soon. It was definitely mooted soon after our takeover.

[Stifler]

21 minutes ago, Rich said:

I have to admit I thought it was the case as well, like, or that it was coming in soon. It was definitely mooted soon after our takeover.

This.

I wasn’t the only one.

[Wandy]

10 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Sorry where does it say that?

Nowhere. It’s my own expertise talking. 

 

Seriously though, I think they could do it with St James’ Terrace removed. There would need to be a lot of glass and clever light redirection technology, and you’d probably need to remove the grass from the front of Leazes Terrace, but it’s doable IMO. And the club must think so too if they are looking at expanding that area of the ground.

[Wandy]

4 hours ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

St James Terrace is Grade II listed anyway. It's not biting the dust 

Already been discussed in this thread but that isn’t the case. A grade 2 listed building could be removed, depending on the conditions. The guy who owns St James Terrace said so himself (and also hinted that he was open to selling it for that to happen).

[Stifler]

Leazers Terrace is grade 2 listed, you can’t do fuck all with it.

 

Also, of course he will say that, he’s trying to cash in on his regeneration project. He’s bought and done out the whole street and still has about 50% of them vacant. Don’t mistake a grifter who grifting, for someone being right.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Stifler

[ryanegg]

3 hours ago, Fezzle said:

Unfortunately the cost and actual process would also be outrageous. That's been be the biggest issue for a long time

It has been a big issue for a long time. But we now have some very wealthy and well connected owners. The Reuben brothers will be playing a massive part in any sort of expansion I would think. 

[dave s]

I remember when they built the current top tier, I got soaked to the bone in the paddocks at that sunderland match and had to walk out under the c*nts through the tunnel in the corner. A miserable evening 

[madras]

4 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Leazers Terrace is grade 2 listed, you can’t do fuck all with it.

 

Also, of course he will say that, he’s trying to cash in on his regeneration project. He’s bought and done out the whole street and still has about 50% of them vacant. Don’t mistake a grifter who grifting, for someone being right.

 

 

 

That's not strictly true. They'd need Listed building consent from the Council. In this instance it's highly unlikely they'd get consent but it's a myth that Grade 2 status means it's Impossible.

[Fezzle]

4 hours ago, ryanegg said:

It has been a big issue for a long time. But we now have some very wealthy and well connected owners. The Reuben brothers will be playing a massive part in any sort of expansion I would think. 

Rueben's can't do much with the structural nightmare of building on top of a metro station though

[Miggys First Goal]

New stadium for me. Either Leazes or Arena. Use the Tottenham stadium as a starting point and make it 10x better.

 

Modern stadium. Modern amenities. Let's give bands/musicians/WWE/boxing/NFL a reason to come to the north east. Level up the region. Bring money into the region. Didn't they say the PSG game brought in £4m to the local economy? Let's get Taylor fucking Swift here, man. Swifties spend money!

[Yorkie]

Winds me up something fierce that people pile into here clamming for a shiny corporate bowl only hours after those incredible scenes from the other night. I understand the reasons why but the idea can absolutely fuck the fuck off for me.