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Pre-FSG - they were a long way away from the revenues of Arsenal and Man U. Didn't maximise their global reach. FSG have realised Liverpool's potential as a properly elite club. There was 20-30% of unrealised potential for 30-odd years.

After last summer and what came out afterwards, I can fully believe it tbh.

The Stack extension being reported in the Chronicle now, and was hoping the Stadium Truth would have Emerged and Spoke Volumes about the Plans that will Surprise You. But alas nothing

I'm not saying they'll stay up, just saying I fancy them to get a result against West Ham.

Of course strange results can occasionally happen but recently even teams which have been promoted automatically, on merit over the season, have struggled terribly to bridge the huge gap in quality. Sunderland finished 24 points behind the automatic places and 16 behind the team in third position. In both play off ties the other teams looked better than them, but they somehow fluked it, assisted massively by horrendous errors which led to them scoring. They may fluke a win against West Ham as well but their players are light years away from being PL standard.

It does just sound like after missing out on Freedman, Eales went to a mate and asked for a favour, without really considering the ramifications.

It's definitely a game you'd want to kick off a gruelling season, but as I said yesterday I wouldn't be surprised if West Ham won at a bit of a canter. The most talented 11 players on the pitch will all be West Ham players, that's a fact. Anything can happen in a one-off game, but the gulf in quality is still absolutely massive. With the exception of maybe Leeds & Burnley - and despite what the mackems might tell you - there isn't 1 sunderland player that would start for any other Premier League side. They will strengthen for sure, but as will everybody else. If anything it would be quite funny to watch them get giddy from beating West Ham & how this PL is 'easy marra', only to be sick of their lives by the time we roll into town in December. They're priced at 2/9 with Paddy Power to be relegated. I've looked for a while but can't find any odds to stay up, but I will be interested to see what they're priced as. You have to go back to 2013 to find a side that's been promoted with less points than sunderland achieved last year. I know it's all relative based on the performance of the other teams in the league, but they're a poor side who will be lucky to get anywhere near 40pts. I'm sure I read they only won 5 or so games by more than 1 goal, which is quite telling.

If Dan was a rat, what is Mitchell? Feel like this has been the sum total of his efforts

Now it does or at least will from August. How many of the past 20yrs has Paris had more than PSG in the top flight.

Annoying as it is as we strive to catch up no point worrying about it. I’ve always believed he will stay this summer and either sign a new contract end of the window when he’s seen who’ve we’ve signed or the club starts a bidding war if they feel they need to next summer with 2 years left on contract. As long as it attitude and application are good I couldn’t see us losing much value even with 12 months on his contract. Just gambling on a contract run down when that close. His current contract puts the power in our hands rather than him and his agents with no buyout clause. Extending and adding one wouldn’t necessarily be to our benefit unless the figure is £160+m as you’ve the barometer of Wirtz deal now to compare and contrast against.

The reality is we need to be making the type of signings that’ll convince players like Isak, Bruno, Tonali want to stay. So far I don’t think we’ve even been linked with those type of signings.

I doubt it's true tbh.

Very much does have another top flight club. In fact, they play next door to PSG.

I think the ethnic mix of Paris now as compared to a few decades ago might have changed that historical view a bit though. Those with African or north African heritage tend to follow football ahead of other sports so I don't really see PSG becoming a small time club again. But if Le Pen grabs power who knows. They might re-nationalise the French league and start using Parc de Princes to sell goats and pigs in the not too distant future.

if he leaves for a PL team I'd boo the fuck out of him (immature, yes.) if he goes abroad and we face him in a game then cheers all round.

So it seems are some on here!

Fancy them to do West Ham tbh.

I can seem him and Nicklas Jackson getting on like a house on fire

O’nines decline will be a brilliant watch, a bit like watching him walk with dog poo during a full interview.

Totally agree re the general appeal of Paris, but not in terms of them being potentially one of the world’s biggest clubs - despite the size of the city (over 10m in the urban area), it doesn’t have another top flight club, and PSG never attracted large or fervent support. It just isn’t a football city. Of course, they’re winning constantly, so they can fill their ground - which is smaller than the Stadium of Shite.

Neither Diomande nor Akliouche had what you’d call “sensational” seasons. Akliouche performed well, while Diomande was relatively underwhelming—so a €60 million price tag for either doesn’t exactly scream value. Fair prices, perhaps, but nothing exceptional in my view. Meanwhile, Ekitike, who by most accounts had a genuinely standout season, is reportedly being valued at €85 million. As for the Huijsen deal, people talk about it as if flipping a €17 million signing into a €50 million sale within a year is straightforward—but in reality, that kind of return is extremely rare.

The really do think some of their players are "all that" I am pretty sure O'Nien will be on toast most weeks. A few red cards incoming for him. That Hume the times I have seen him has looked half decent to be fair, think he could go on to be a decent PL player but you'd swear blind he was the next Roberto Carlos.

I also agree we are vulnerable to him leaving in the future, but I do wonder who would stump up the money. The only one that I could see potentially happening is Liverpool in a years time. They would usually like to sign someone before they got to the £100m+ level, but maybe the signing of Wirtz is a shift in mentality for them to stay at the very top for a while. City have Haaland, Real Madrid have Mbappe et al, it would take a lot for Man Utd to be able to get him, could Arsenal afford him? No idea, but the pool of clubs is quite small. If we do have a gentlemen's agreement with Isak to go, next summer would be the time to capitalise for maximum dollar. But no idea who would stump up the money, I know it sounds ludicrous but it genuinely would be in the region of £150m surely. I never want to lose him and would be mint if he could score 200+ for us, but £150m would be very difficult to turn down, now or in the future.

Agree with this. While I understand Trafford is worth paying a bit extra for being battle hardened in English football, I saw us linked with Lucas Chevalier as an alternative. He looks like he's going to be a top GK as well, if we can get him for significantly less and his club are easier to deal with, I wouldn't be unhappy with seeing him here.