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Should get Paxman to ask them.

If he's got a release clause he'll get a spot on the fucking bench.

Their answers are meaningless. Their actions, or rather the lack of them, give a truer reflection about the levels of investment and ambition than Llambias' drivel will.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/8742357/England-v-Wales-Fabio-Capello-tells-Andy-Carroll-to-curb-his-drinking-so-that-he-can-become-a-top-player.html England v Wales: Fabio Capello tells Andy Carroll to curb his drinking so that he can become a top player England manager Fabio Capello has told Liverpool striker Andy Carroll to drink less if he wants to hold down a regular place on the international scene. Back in March Carroll appeared to be Capello's golden boy, marking his second cap with his first senior goal against Ghana at Wembley. Since then though, the Gateshead-born frontman's career seems to have stalled. He missed the subsequent Euro 2012 qualifier against Switzerland - and the European Under-21 Championships - due to injury, and during the summer he was pictured partying on holiday in Barbados. However, despite not even finding a place for the Liverpool striker among his substitutes in Bulgaria on Friday, Capello's warning was of a general variety rather than isolating specifics. "I think if he wants to be a good player, a good sportsman, he needs to drink less," Capello said. The Italian said he had spoken to Carroll but declined to give details of his advice. "It's a private message. I spoke with him. It's a private discussion between two people but he understands a lot. He's young, we need to help him. He's a really important player. "He needs to be careful, because he's an important player not only for the England team but for Liverpool. I think he understands what he needs to do." It would be a major surprise if Carroll was in contention for a starting berth in tomorrow's encounter with Wales at Wembley, purely on the basis of how well England's attack performed in Sofia on Friday. Yet Capello is considering changes for what he hopes will be his last competitive game at Wembley as England manager. In dismissing the theory that he might drop either Gareth Barry or Scott Parker, who are both a booking away from being suspended for the final game in Montenegro on October 7, Capello highlighted the difficulties his side encounter at Wembley. A run of three draws and a defeat from their last four outings at the national stadium is their worst for almost three decades and with the pace of Gareth Bale at their disposal, Capello is anticipating Wales adopting safety-first tactics. "It is possible I will change the style," Capello said. "I don't think about yellow cards and whether some players will miss the next game. It is step-by-step and tomorrow will be a tough game. "I watched the game they played against Montenegro. They played really well on the counter-attack and Bale is back on top form. "After his injury he only played at 80 per cent of his capacity. Now he is really good. "He is a really important player. He is so fast. It is difficult to stop him. We need to prepare something." Needs a kick up the arse tbh.

Complete waste of time. A pointless exercise because they've got no intention of investing.

Don't think we've got any intention of paying decent money for a striker either last window or next. Any bids we supposedly make are made in the knowledge that either the club or the player (or both) will reject it. But at least they can say that they tried. That's the main thing.

Fucking guys. You wait til we all go to bed then start this shit?

Fuck it, I'm out. Best of luck.

I want to stand. You're not allowed. We used to be able to stand. Not any more. They stand, so I am. We'll take away your ticket. Don't care I want to stand. You're not allowed. I'll move to a different part of the ground and stand there. You're not allowed. We used to be able to stand. Not any more. They should bring back standing Not happening. We used to be able to stand. It'll go in eventually.

They all live and rain in Moscow though don't they? They just fly in and out for matches.

Priorities.

So we tapped Maiga up and then his club wouldn't deal with us on deadline day. Maybe we should have approached the club first like you're supposed to? They deserve every single ounce of criticism they get. They're clueless, classless pricks.

Twisted his stomach, has he?

It's still completely inexplicable to me why the felt that it was a good idea to come out with the whole "it'll be reinvested" shit. Did they just assume we'd forget in six months time? For a lot of fans it was the only thing that justified his sale. It also bought them 6 months breathing space. What's the difference between people being pissed off then and a lot more people being pissed off now? It's not as if they needed to lie to avert mass riots or anything. I guess they don't like being criticised/slagged by the footballing public? I stopped trying to make sense of their backward logic and strategy in 2009.

It's still completely inexplicable to me why the felt that it was a good idea to come out with the whole "it'll be reinvested" shit. Did they just assume we'd forget in six months time? For a lot of fans it was the only thing that justified his sale. It also bought them 6 months breathing space.

It's like picking the peanuts out of shite. At the end of the day they failed miserably and lied about the Carroll money. Scum.

Still think he knows exactly what the score is and spins it to the fans. Deliberately obtuse in interviews and wings it with cliches and lies. He knew what he was walking into, who he was working for and is happy enough to go along with it.

The threat of litigation if anything went wrong means standing will never be allowed again. As much as I'd like to see small standing areas reintroduced I know it'll never happen. It's a complete non-starter.

Take your pick: 1. The deal wasn't right for the club. 2. Couldn't quite tie it up (in time). 3. We offered him a very good deal but he chose to go somewhere else. 4. We weren't going to be held to ransom. 5. We did everything we could to get someone in. 6. We're not going to buy for the sake of it. 7. Obviously teams don't want to sell their best players on deadline day. Or some other fucking bullshit. Don't want to hear it, it stinks.

I'd like to give Pardew the benefit of the doubt and say it has always been the plan to go one upfront with Ben Arfa behind in the hole, pace on the wings and a quality CM pairing. Now if we have Ba, Best or Shola as that one upfront then might, might be ok to get us through to Jan. We also need to cross our fingers and hope we get no injuries to the key men. Lot's of 'if's' and 'buts' in that and it might be our only way of working it. How fucking ridiculous that we're limited to what formation we can play because of the inability to get a striker in. Fucking farce.

Have you thought about mentioning the inaccuracies of the article on the comments section of the chronicle?

That is half right. He also paid 140m in CASH to Shepherd and the Halls for the club, so even if his initial loan is paid back through profits that the club makes, there is still the initial capital cost of 140m. I think his total investment in the club is around 280m. If he makes a 40m profit for the past year and uses that to reduce the debt, then his net investment in the club will still be north of 200m, which means that if he sells for anything less than that, he'll have made a loss. And for what it's worth, when you invest almost 300m in anything, you expect returns every year. He's obviously not had any return on his investment over the past 4 years, so there is an opportunity cost to factor into it. A rough estimate of his investment so far is probably around 350m (without taking into account last year's profits). Does he have to disclose any of this? Is it possible to join the dots from the published accounts and find out exactly how the club was bought and who is owed the money? Sorry for sounding like an idiot I just want to understand where the club is financially. Yeah, you'll be able to see everything from the yearly accounts published. When he repays a bit of the debt back this year, it'll show up in the accounts as a smaller gross debt (which is what I expect to see). Our cashflow is probably not good yet because we're paying out transfers up front and selling in installments, but from a financial perspective, things are improving and the medium term future looks good (low wages, high revenue = profits). Maybe the cash-flow situation will actually look good because we got all the Carroll money up front. If that's the case then our overdraft will be significantly lower than the 36m that it was in the last set of accounts. The trouble is maintaining lower wages which is impossible to do for good players, so you either have to sell them and replace them with players whose wages are lower, or pay them more which will reduce the profit. I'm just giving you an objective look on the finances, by the way. It's obviously no fun as a fan to see negative net spending every window and us having to suffer through watching shite like Ameobi and Lovenkrands when we should realistically be watching the likes of Gameiro and Ruiz. Cheers. Last one - do we know when are the next set of accounts due to be released?

That is half right. He also paid 140m in CASH to Shepherd and the Halls for the club, so even if his initial loan is paid back through profits that the club makes, there is still the initial capital cost of 140m. I think his total investment in the club is around 280m. If he makes a 40m profit for the past year and uses that to reduce the debt, then his net investment in the club will still be north of 200m, which means that if he sells for anything less than that, he'll have made a loss. And for what it's worth, when you invest almost 300m in anything, you expect returns every year. He's obviously not had any return on his investment over the past 4 years, so there is an opportunity cost to factor into it. A rough estimate of his investment so far is probably around 350m (without taking into account last year's profits). Does he have to disclose any of this? Is it possible to join the dots from the published accounts and find out exactly how the club was bought and who is owed the money? Sorry for sounding like an idiot I just want to understand where the club is financially.

Can someone explain this to me in layman's terms? Is this right: He loaned a company the money to buy the club. Any/some of the profit the club makes goes towards paying off the loan that he used to buy the club in the first place?

It would only need to happen at a few games to eject the persistent standers and the rest would fall into line. The fact is that if you stand for most of the match you're breaking the terms and conditions of your ticket. You've not got a leg to stand on. Pun intended. That is exactly why they shouldn't have shunted those intent on having a good time and jumping around like nuggets out of the top corner. Nobody was getting upset by people standing up there, apart from the stewards, I mean the away fans stand all of the time. Newcastle do it away from home. What about Peterborough away? A whole stand where we stood all game....as there was no seats. Anyways, if you couldnt stand for longer than 2 hours for a game, you certainly couldnt make it up to levcel 7 in the first place so all round, everyone was a winner. I can think of one highly influential person immediately...