madras

there is a bigger change today allowing n'zog amd beye to get forward a bit, ie milner covering n'zog and barton droppiung behind beye when he went forward. signs of being organised, more than i've seen inmust be 2 seasons now.

beye seems to be coming to terms with the prem.where is the bloke who two weeks ago wouldn't pass the half way line ? good on ya habib and more of it.

we started out with tactics,we ended with passion. tonight fans will be arguing over wether we played 4-4-2 whern viduka came or or was it 4-5-1 or 4-3-3. we won, just about deserved it aswell. hurrah!

yes the larndarn press give us no slack.........tough!! just get on with it. aren't we better for achieving anything inspite of them ?

no change yet......no sack but very close.

the game changed after bartons challange just before half time,then butt dived in . after that arsenal didn't fancy it. we proved we have guts and fight....it'sa start but not enough.....yet

I'm only aware of the Green Hospital in Wallsend, depends how you are of course. I was born in the 70s. late 60's for me. then 6 weeks in walker then on to the peoples republic of newbiggin hall

born in the green hospital wallsend. always lived in newcastle.

overheard V liverpool. " we should try and get capello" "capello ? i'd be fucking happy with marty pellow right now"

The key to a solid defence is consistency but our defence has been chopped and changed so much by Sam that the players haven?t had a chance to develop any kind of understanding, and if it continues they never will. We have played with 10 different defensive line-ups this season. On the whole, the changes haven?t been forced upon Sam by injury or suspension. They have often been made to accommodate midfielders in the side; which sort of rubbishes the idea that his priority is stability at the back. I agree that a solid defence should be the first priority. Sam may say it is his but he is making absolutely no progress towards it and seems to have no clue of how to achieve it. We will continue to leak goals as he continues to swap the defence around and that doesn?t show any signs of stopping. it's not the defence,it's the defending throughout the team. i am absolutly f****** sick of having to point that out. Have you nicked Ne5's act? mackems.gif (now i have)

Reminds me of that song i've heard once or twice at games. The one that goes something like "me brothers in borstal,me mams got the pox, me sisters a hooker at hartlepool docks. you mean me brothers in borstal me sisters got pox me mothers a whore down on hartlepool docks me uncles got rabies me aunties gone mad and jack the rippers me dad.................laaaaaa laaaa laaaaa lalalalalalalala (they just don't write'em like that anymore)

at least it might guarantee us being in the 4th round draw

i've had a couple of e-mails read out and once got an e-mail urging me to call as they'd like to put me on (was about the kelvin mackenzie saying the scots were lazy etc and the south east provided for the rest of the country)

The key to a solid defence is consistency but our defence has been chopped and changed so much by Sam that the players haven’t had a chance to develop any kind of understanding, and if it continues they never will. We have played with 10 different defensive line-ups this season. On the whole, the changes haven’t been forced upon Sam by injury or suspension. They have often been made to accommodate midfielders in the side; which sort of rubbishes the idea that his priority is stability at the back. I agree that a solid defence should be the first priority. Sam may say it is his but he is making absolutely no progress towards it and seems to have no clue of how to achieve it. We will continue to leak goals as he continues to swap the defence around and that doesn’t show any signs of stopping. it's not the defence,it's the defending throughout the team. i am absolutly fucking sick of having to point that out.

not a "couple"of results and as many on here are pointing out is has been the performances through tactics and formations throughout the season that have us in this position.

Which one was it? I've been a Newcastle fan all of my life and i've never been as embarrassed as I was after the Liverpool match. It wasn't the performance, but the fans who acted so childshly. We've been spoilt by the relative success of the Keegan and Robson era's which has vastly inflated expectations. We need to understand that our performances over the past few seasons haven't been down to bad luck, but bad players and bad management. We're not a top six or even a top eight club and haven't been for a while now. The blame doesn't lie at the feet of Allardyce, Mort or Ashley but the likes of Souness, Shepherd and Douglas Hall. Give Big Sam time and he'll get it right. do you think allardyce could have got better performances out of his squad quite easily in most of our games this season ? I think the answer is no, but then I don't really understand the question. i'll rephrase it.....do you think the performances and results would have been better if allardyce had played a balanced team,not played players continually out of position,setting out teams for 0-0's at the leagues weakest teams,not seeing when tactics aren't working in certain games,sending out teams with the sole intention of stopping the opposition and no plan for when they are breached ? Yes, I do. I can't defend his tactics or team selections because they have baffled me occasionally but we can't advocate sacking him after 14 games, especially when he's barely had a chance to start building his own team. It's a long process that wont improve if we hoy our toys out of the pram and sack the manager every single f****** time they do something we don't agree with. If we do then this board will be full of more posts saying "Wrong man, sack him" whenever the new fella picks Smith over Owen, Duff over N'Zogbia etc. not normally,however,and this is the question,is ashley going to bankroll the club to acheive his aim of champs league football and prem title within 5 years ? if so, he should get the man HE wants. as for hoying the toys out etc on every occasion he does something we disagree with...the problem is that he is doing it every single time (at least more often than not). i'm not one for wanting the manager sacked, something i have stopped short of (just!). i understood souness and roeders injury problems for chrisakes,but performances like those so far this season,for the rest of the year will leave his position untenable.

Which one was it? I've been a Newcastle fan all of my life and i've never been as embarrassed as I was after the Liverpool match. It wasn't the performance, but the fans who acted so childshly. We've been spoilt by the relative success of the Keegan and Robson era's which has vastly inflated expectations. We need to understand that our performances over the past few seasons haven't been down to bad luck, but bad players and bad management. We're not a top six or even a top eight club and haven't been for a while now. The blame doesn't lie at the feet of Allardyce, Mort or Ashley but the likes of Souness, Shepherd and Douglas Hall. Give Big Sam time and he'll get it right. do you think allardyce could have got better performances out of his squad quite easily in most of our games this season ? I think the answer is no, but then I don't really understand the question. i'll rephrase it.....do you think the performances and results would have been better if allardyce had played a balanced team,not played players continually out of position,setting out teams for 0-0's at the leagues weakest teams,not seeing when tactics aren't working in certain games,sending out teams with the sole intention of stopping the opposition and no plan for when they are breached ?

Which one was it? I've been a Newcastle fan all of my life and i've never been as embarrassed as I was after the Liverpool match. It wasn't the performance, but the fans who acted so childshly. We've been spoilt by the relative success of the Keegan and Robson era's which has vastly inflated expectations. We need to understand that our performances over the past few seasons haven't been down to bad luck, but bad players and bad management. We're not a top six or even a top eight club and haven't been for a while now. The blame doesn't lie at the feet of Allardyce, Mort or Ashley but the likes of Souness, Shepherd and Douglas Hall. Give Big Sam time and he'll get it right. do you think allardyce could have got better performances out of his squad quite easily in most of our games this season ?

and you know it's all true because ? kaka out,tabloid believer. madras out! prima donna sucker upper! have you seen donna though ? wahey hubba hubba :sex:

anyone remember alan kennedy,irving nattrass and paul cannell ?

and you know it's all true because ? kaka out,tabloid believer.

a0 maybe they did but it never made the press. b) under the previous two it was usually more a case of trying to find 16 fit players out of a poor,ill balanced squad rather than poor tactics.

shut down the message board and just leave that in its place,says everything.

he got a tackle in and it was unlucky where it went. had he slide tackled he'd run a greater risk of given away a free kick.if he'd slid and the ball ended up going to the same place he'd get slaughtered for not staying on his feet.

be honest. the booing has only been at half time/full time when getting beat and playing appallingly. that would happen everywhere.