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I would always support my country above any other nation, regardless of who played for the opposition. Exactly the same as i wouldn't support Man Utd above Newcastle if the Mancs happened to field 5 Geordies and we fielded none. ... and therein lies the difference. I care significantly less about Scotland and the USA than I care about how NUFC performs and I imagine the majority on here do (edit: about their own respective Countries - I am well aware of the fact that the USA and especially Scotland are... loathed by the majority on here). Convesely I never support ManUre even if they are the only british team in Europe... I just won't do it. i don't see the need to have an "either club or country" attitude. I can love both, there is no conflict. I will also support no other English team (British being irrelvant) in Europe - why would anyone do that? I don't support another European team if (when ) England get kicked out of a World Cup. not often i'll say this but I AGREE 100% WITH NORTHERN MONKEY about the bit in bold Woo hoo!! A dream fulfilled! lets not go making a habit of it.

I would always support my country above any other nation, regardless of who played for the opposition. Exactly the same as i wouldn't support Man Utd above Newcastle if the Mancs happened to field 5 Geordies and we fielded none. ... and therein lies the difference. I care significantly less about Scotland and the USA than I care about how NUFC performs and I imagine the majority on here do (edit: about their own respective Countries - I am well aware of the fact that the USA and especially Scotland are... loathed by the majority on here). Convesely I never support ManUre even if they are the only british team in Europe... I just won't do it. i don't see the need to have an "either club or country" attitude. I can love both, there is no conflict. I will also support no other English team (British being irrelvant) in Europe - why would anyone do that? I don't support another European team if (when ) England get kicked out of a World Cup. not often i'll say this but I AGREE 100% WITH NORTHERN MONKEY about the bit in bold

i think he bothered,just didn't think davies,upson,neill were worth the money. disagree about putting the kids in. Then he was wrong. We have one of the worst centre backs, and worst left backs, in the premiership. We're lucky to have an aged - good - right winger to play at right back, else we'd have a hat trick. I think Neill is s***, but him and the other 2 you mentioned are still better than the s**** we have. Roeder failed to get what we needed, thats a fact. But regardless of that, my point about there being no injury list stands. so why pay over the top for players marginally better than what we have...roeder failed to get what we needed,ferguson failed to get the keane replacement.i'd have been more pissed off buying zat knight for £7mill than getting through with what we have.

you shouldn't support USA under your dodgy politics rule. come on,you were all thinking it

i think he bothered,just didn't think davies,upson,neill were worth the money. disagree about putting the kids in.

I think that's a bit of a harsh attitude towards Northern Ireland football. I can be as proud as I want standing in Windsor, which is in my own country as opposed to Dublin which is in a foreign country. By that rationale, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should exist as a British team, which I wouldn't want to see either. As David Humphries, Ulster & Ireland rugby player said, "It's good playing for Ireland but nothing beats playing for your own country" (May not be exact words used) NI isn't in Britain, though is it. Its in the UK. Like CaliMag I don't want to get into a political thread but I was referring to British nationality, in the same way that the likes of Owen Hargreaves is 'English' No, i mean that literally, NI is not part of the British isles, regardless of politics. get your point.that's how the rest of europe sees england and scotland. But i thought that officially we ARE part of Europe? (i'd rather not be at times, but hey). NI is part of the UK, but not the British Isles, is my point. Ireland is part of the british isles. i know what he means

I think that's a bit of a harsh attitude towards Northern Ireland football. I can be as proud as I want standing in Windsor, which is in my own country as opposed to Dublin which is in a foreign country. By that rationale, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should exist as a British team, which I wouldn't want to see either. As David Humphries, Ulster & Ireland rugby player said, "It's good playing for Ireland but nothing beats playing for your own country" (May not be exact words used) NI isn't in Britain, though is it. Its in the UK. Like CaliMag I don't want to get into a political thread but I was referring to British nationality, in the same way that the likes of Owen Hargreaves is 'English' No, i mean that literally, NI is not part of the British isles, regardless of politics. get your point.that's how the rest of europe sees england and scotland.

I think that's a bit of a harsh attitude towards Northern Ireland football. I can be as proud as I want standing in Windsor, which is in my own country as opposed to Dublin which is in a foreign country. By that rationale, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should exist as a British team, which I wouldn't want to see either. As David Humphries, Ulster & Ireland rugby player said, "It's good playing for Ireland but nothing beats playing for your own country" (May not be exact words used) What I said is admittedly harsh and as I said controversial. I still feel that way though. I think the comparison with NI as opposed to Scotland/Wales/England is not completely the same, but there are admitted similarities. I dont want to hijack this thread by discussing "the troubles" but obviously I feel that if NI were forced to play with a unified Ireland that might help bring the communities closer together and even if it didn't it would be one less excuse to drive them apart... which you must admit Windsor Park certainly does. Example: Lennon's reception a few years ago. Despite my own feelings on the matter, I can't do anything except tip my hat to the current NI set up and respectfully acknowledge how much they have drastically improved with very little talent at their disposal (quite stunning really). It is possible NI qualifies and England does not which would be sweet. bearing in mind they are 2 seperate countries,where as england,scotland,wales and northern irealnd aren't really seperate,wouldn't it make more sense to join up the "home" nations. i don't support this but it seems more logical (captain) than the other suggestion. I don't see NI and the south as being seperate countries. Just because WE made it that way last century, doesn't make it right. regardless of wether it's right or not,they are seperate countries

I think that's a bit of a harsh attitude towards Northern Ireland football. I can be as proud as I want standing in Windsor, which is in my own country as opposed to Dublin which is in a foreign country. By that rationale, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should exist as a British team, which I wouldn't want to see either. As David Humphries, Ulster & Ireland rugby player said, "It's good playing for Ireland but nothing beats playing for your own country" (May not be exact words used) What I said is admittedly harsh and as I said controversial. I still feel that way though. I think the comparison with NI as opposed to Scotland/Wales/England is not completely the same, but there are admitted similarities. I dont want to hijack this thread by discussing "the troubles" but obviously I feel that if NI were forced to play with a unified Ireland that might help bring the communities closer together and even if it didn't it would be one less excuse to drive them apart... which you must admit Windsor Park certainly does. Example: Lennon's reception a few years ago. Despite my own feelings on the matter, I can't do anything except tip my hat to the current NI set up and respectfully acknowledge how much they have drastically improved with very little talent at their disposal (quite stunning really). It is possible NI qualifies and England does not which would be sweet. bearing in mind they are 2 seperate countries,where as england,scotland,wales and northern irealnd aren't really seperate,wouldn't it make more sense to join up the "home" nations. i don't support this but it seems more logical (captain) than the other suggestion.

gone a £5er on this lot to win this weekend. PSV AZ Valencia lyon fenerbahce ajax inter basle aek athens brondby

wes brown was a very good prospect 5 or 6 years ago and always looks like he needs a leader alongside him. lets check that injury record aswell. yes sign him but not a penny more than £4mill(ish)

Yeah, that's pretty much what I decided on when I woke up. wow does that give you magic farts ?

bolton and hearts Didn't realise Bolton played CL football this year? didn't realise you said this year....technically this year has a long way to go I didn't say this year? I said 2 Champions league teams. Bolton haven't competed in the Champions league. could be by the time we play them in july

bolton and hearts Didn't realise Bolton played CL football this year? didn't realise you said this year....technically this year has a long way to go

bolton and hearts

fairs fair,bet he'd rather he wasn't injured. as for the second sentance...footballs always been about money,just now the numbers are bigger edit..my bad,was sure this was the owen thread

the sun gets even better when we beat a southern team,the match report in the northern edition is normally "newcastle won" the southern edition is "newcastle had 20 shots to cockneys 1,had 98% of the possession but were very lucky to win,the geordie bastards" type thing. at least it used to,have to admit to not reading the shite in a long long time.

portugal produces better players than the others you mention,so having his pick of them is better than having the pick of scottish,belgian,greek or danish players. at the time he was at porto werent benfica struggling financially ?

Clearly he had money to spend at Chelsea. Not convinced he had enough money to take a Portugese side to consecutive European titles. Porto have a lot less money to spend than even Rangers and Celtic, never mind the mighty NUFC but they had more than their domestic competition

what does that make mourinho somebody who took a Portugese side to win the Uefa then CL He also got lots of brownie points for turning Joe Cole from a step-over ponce to a good team player. That he also had a blank cheque book doesn't mean he can't do other things too where he could bring in the best players in portugal.....notice he didn't improve chelsea without bringing in one or two

what does that make mourinho

It was, that and a board with no ambition. shhhhh!.......the you know whos! Ever see LOTR's the 1st one where the clumsy hobbit knocks the alarm in the dwarf mines? *dum dum dum dummm dumm dummm* 'They have a cave troll' dead pleased to say "no i haven't"

you forgot the people from the top of the street

It was, that and a board with no ambition. shhhhh!.......the you know whos!

i'm more nufc,so if a majority nufc team plays i'd have to question it