madras

that could be the problem. the argument was alaways what allardyce would be like at a bigger club. at bolton did he get to the 4-3-3 as just the best use of what he had or was it a concerted plan ? the better managers go with the former,his days are numbered if the latter.

wrong to compare allardyce to hitler.....keegan is a closer analogy, started amazingly well but it blew up right at the end.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article2994786.ece the players may find themselves on the receiving end of some flak IF this is true. get together and confront the manager over 3 days away from the family at christmas but say sod all about the abysmal formations and tactics.

the closest for nufc/safc style hatred that i know of is cardiff/swansea.

am i the only one who finds it amazing the ammount of people who come on here needing 1 result to complete a multiple hundred pound accumulator ?.must be luck as most who nominate all there bets before hand seem to get fucked over.

can we quantify "bigger" ? is it biggest as in biggest clubs or nastiest, best atmosphere,most at stake,most vicious or what ?

then again, you're pissed and someone sets ahad to your shirt......i've seen it happen before.

he reckons the cigar in the eye incident wasn't as reported. the youth team player set alight to his shirt so he nicked a cigar off someone with the intention of stubbing it out on the back of his head but the youth team player moved. on saying about his shirt being set alight he says " i was brought up on a council estate and thats fighting talk where i come from"

no joking...the likes of darlo-hartlepool can be quite tasty. cardiff-swansea is very violent and blackburn-burnley-bolton may sound like it's a knockout but aint for the faint hearted

the biggest derby is the one to which you owe allegiance

allardyces team to face arsenal. wheetman auchterlonie rutherford williamson fenwick percival crawford pollard forster thompson wharton. so it's simonside middle school's under 11 newburn league and cup winning side fron 1977-78............would it surprise anyone ?.

decky prefers virgins ?

depends how much (if any) ashley is prepared to put in. he could tempt prctically who he wanted if he was to guarantee them a £200million transfer kitty for example. saying you have to generate your own funds may find it more difficuilt to tempt a name. Everyone has a billionaire owner these days though. And it is very unlikely that Ashley is going to triple the budget of the top 4. You can't reasonably expect him to wager a good chunk of his fortune on new signings. So let's assume a substantial budget, but in line with spending of other top 7 clubs. I'm just curious what names people have in mind. Are we talking Mark Hughes? Jol? Mourinho? Capello? Because trying to look at this objectively, Newcastle would have to be one of the least attractive jobs in the Premiership for a top manager. What incentive is there? Big salary - fine, but you can get that anywhere in Europe. Transfer budget - higher than most rivals, but they also have billionaire owners, and why would top players sign for a mid-table club? Any manager would know that there is no chance of long term success, and that they would have to produce short term results with the squad they have and as soon as they arrive. Would they move their family knowing that they are statistically very likely to be out of a job in 12 months time? Newcastle United manager is a tough job at the moment; sack Sam, and it becomes the dead end of football management. Anyone qualified and competent wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Why would they? thats the whole point, so everyone has a billionaire owner but liverpool are regining in the spending and lerner hasn't splashed chelseas style cash about. if ashley is planning on putting up serious cash he can attract very good quality. oh an what incentive is there ? to create something like keegan did and how is he thought of. to turn a huge club into a winning one.....to succeed where everyone else has failed. if a manager has self faith NUFC with the backing should be close to thetop of the list in england given that ferguson or wenger look unlike moving.

fair point

What are you f****** on about now? That's how its always been, and always will be. you talk as if they are seperate groups of people. many of those fantastic away supporters are self same whingers and bboers at home. Disagree, in my experience. i was commenting from experience also.

depends how much (if any) ashley is prepared to put in. he could tempt prctically who he wanted if he was to guarantee them a £200million transfer kitty for example. saying you have to generate your own funds may find it more difficuilt to tempt a name.

i'd much rather brum was before arsenal

and not before time, come on Arsenal f*** you prick!!! is that abuse mods? or the feelings of quite a few

nailed on then

glen roeder would agree with you Glenn Roeder showed at all his previous clubs what he was capable of. Irrelevant, only your current club matters, thats why the likes of Daglish got the boot felt sorry for dalglish, very unlucky in losing both shearer and asprilla long term.

i don't think so. however poor performances in the 4 after arsenal could see him gone. actually looking forward to the brum game as he will send a team out to go for it.

sounded like a much better performance today. amazing what balance can do. just think if we'd done that V reading,sunderland,derby,boro. ?

What are you f****** on about now? That's how its always been, and always will be. you talk as if they are seperate groups of people. many of those fantastic away supporters are self same whingers and bboers at home.

strange thing is the players have got off relativly lightly and the manager has deservedly copped the flack.

if we line up given beye rozenhal faye n'zogbia geremi butt barton milner martins smith i'll not slag off allardyce for his choices, bit of balance for a chanege.