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For anyone who doesn't have tickets yet or fancy an upgrade. http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1533170,00.html /Hint. It's not 9.
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Hull have failed to agree a fee for John Arne Riise, wonder if we'll be in for him again.
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Not going to happen. /fingers crossed that it happens.
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For fucks sake, why have a pop over this? What does it matter if he is indeed a good coach?
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It certainly is now. Just contracted till the end of the season which is interesting.
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I would say pretty much everything.
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Reputed to be a good coach. Fingers crossed he can help get the players all pulling in the right direction again once the window shuts.
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Arf.
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How many right backs do they need? Gunter, Hutton, Corluka and now Pascal (i don't care about the money) Chimbonda. Old saggy arse complains about inheriting an unbalanced sqaud and then buys yet another CM and another RB? Daft old prick! 4 right backs in less than a year. Greedy feckers.
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That's the spirit.
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indeed, waste of breath and kinetic (?) energy typing it out Ah, its massively unlikely but I'd like to think that if there is a chance, we might still be able to pull off big signings once in a while if Ashley sees a player that could have a decent return value in the future. Not sure that spaffing a wedge on Keane is such a good idea though.
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don't they do that a fair bit in spain and italy too? go to the press and start chelping about tactics and the like? doesn't work with us, of course, but evidently seen as OK there... Think Robert was a bit shocked at our reaction to his French website interviews. /I was too considering they were all pretty much spot on.
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Bobby Robson looked at both Balde and Boumsong as possible replacements for Woodgate. Indeed, Robson told Shepherd Boumsong wasn't worth it on a free, then Souness convinced Shepherd he was worth £8m. You couldn't make it up so he is saying that the chairman of the club should act on the advice of an ex manager rather than the current one, and you are agreeing with him ? haha, you couldn't make it up. I don't expect to see you accusing the chairman of the club interfering in transfers in future, having now said you think he should I think the point is more that you back the right manager. Or "Top Boss" if you prefer oh well, I don't think the club, or any club, deliberately appoint a manager they think will do a poor job. You've still got your unrealistic hat on today haven't you Most people who ask you a question on here must wear that unrealistic hat. Have you been in the finances thread yet? nope. Haven't read it. I'm sure it will be full of people obsessed with finding fault with Shepherd and telling us how you can be successful in football by spending nothing and not running up debts, just like manU, Arsenal and Liverpool do. mackems.gif I'm not sure what you find so funny, but you should read up your history of the club, league positions and value of it pre-1992. It might help you realise that the Halls and Shepherd didn't bring an end to decades of glorious success, unless you count challenging for the 2nd division title. Hey, don't get me wrong, a part of me is a big fan of the Halls and Shepherds. They saved us and pushed us upwards, and (while lately they pretty much royally fucked us, right) there were some good time, really good times. Was just surprised that you hadn't even looked at a thread that concerns issues that have a rather large bearing on the club at the moment.
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I would be happy for him to stay yet understand he want's out, but sorry, I'm glad we're trying to squeeze as much as we can out of his next club. Christ I'm almost wishing we let him rot in the reserves the way he is going on.
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Bobby Robson looked at both Balde and Boumsong as possible replacements for Woodgate. Indeed, Robson told Shepherd Boumsong wasn't worth it on a free, then Souness convinced Shepherd he was worth £8m. You couldn't make it up so he is saying that the chairman of the club should act on the advice of an ex manager rather than the current one, and you are agreeing with him ? haha, you couldn't make it up. I don't expect to see you accusing the chairman of the club interfering in transfers in future, having now said you think he should I think the point is more that you back the right manager. Or "Top Boss" if you prefer oh well, I don't think the club, or any club, deliberately appoint a manager they think will do a poor job. You've still got your unrealistic hat on today haven't you Most people who ask you a question on here must wear that unrealistic hat. Have you been in the finances thread yet? nope. Haven't read it. I'm sure it will be full of people obsessed with finding fault with Shepherd and telling us how you can be successful in football by spending nothing and not running up debts, just like manU, Arsenal and Liverpool do. mackems.gif
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You sneering at the 93 promotion like that proves to me you can't possibly be a NUFC supporter. How anyone can belittle that is beyond me. Shocking stuff. Although not to be unexpected on here these days Oh for fucks sake.
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Good, that's what I pay them for. There are only so many times I can stomach listening to who Barton would like to tongue under the mistletoe, or watch Taylor yabbering on about his first bike.
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Nope, the accounts have revealled a damn sight more than the 'deafening silence'. /and it's dragged up to Newcastle if you don't mind. There ya go lol. But the how easy would it have been to avoid the total silence? Its so unavoidable, it says so much they cant be arsed to just simply come in front of a camera and talk to the fans, its disgraceful treatment, and if they really cared they'd at least get that right. I totally agree, communication since things went tits up has been dreadful, but then (and I'm not defending them here, just trying to work it out) whatever they said (or might have said) post Keegan was either dismissed or classed as lies. And to be fair, there is not a lot they could say that would have be taken seriously during the period when we were up for sale and could have had a new lot in at any moment. However, it is a different matter now that we are off the market, and while they might still be a little wary, i'm surprised the club has not gone on a bit of a media blitz to get people back on board. They have said they will get back to us after the transfer window has closed. Fine. But preferably they should be feeding us reasurances and keeping us in touch all the time now because any one off press releases (with, as you picked up on, the usual statements about driving the club forward without expanding on just how we might do that) are going to be disected to hell with little sympathy from many. That's not what they need to get the pie boycotters back on board.
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Nope, the accounts have revealled a damn sight more than the 'deafening silence'. /and it's dragged up to Newcastle if you don't mind.
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I don't think for one minute the club want's to sell Given.
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Newcastle United Finances - 2008 Accounts Recently Filed
BottledDog replied to quayside's topic in Football
have you read the figures?? how can ashley take a dividend when he is financing the running of the club at the moment??? company directors take dividends out of loss making companies all the time. Haven’t you seen the news recently? yes public company where they don't use there own money at all to buy the club etc the figures show ashley is keeping the club alive with his own cash, so why would he take money out then He hasn’t put any money in, he’s lent the club £100m. His own money. 70 for the debt, and 30 to keep the club going (plus another £10 million on top in June according to the OP). Ashley bought the club without checking the books and got well and truly shafted. If he hadn’t paid off the outstanding creditors he could have seen his £135m investment go down the pan. Yet your lauding him to the high heavens for saving his own skin and asking us to pay for it. Last years accounts count for s*** anyway. It’s next years accounts that will show if you’re blind faith in Ashley is warranted or sorely misguided. My money would be on the latter as losing lots of customers very rapidly tends to do bad things to the balance sheet. Get a grip, I don't see anyone here with blind faith in him or lauding him to the high heavens for fucks sake. He deserves criticism, His nieve managerial choices, and his poor communication have been massively dissapointing. If he fucked off and sold to someone willing to pump absurd amounts of money into the club with no long term damage i'd be delighted. However, it is also reasonable surely (rather than to just dismiss the accounts as you suggest) to take on board that the club was in a fucking dreadful situation and Ashley actions and continuing actions have at least stopped the rot to some degree. His decisions to put more emphasis on scouting and youth and not being held to ransom over inflated contract demands are sensible considering the climate. People were demanding to know where his £20 million a year investment was in simple term of incoming transfers, well now we know that the extra money was being put in but only just covers running costs. Ashley recognised this and was actively courting local businessmen to join him. If he had managed to secure that further local investment, we might have been in a much stronger position to get in the players Keegan wanted. Sadly that didn't work out. I'm scared shitless over where we are heading under his stewardship this season, but I recognise the problems we have and I don't see any benefit in sticking the boot in at every opportunity as some seem to be doing. -
Newcastle United Finances - 2008 Accounts Recently Filed
BottledDog replied to quayside's topic in Football
have you read the figures?? how can ashley take a dividend when he is financing the running of the club at the moment??? company directors take dividends out of loss making companies all the time. Haven’t you seen the news recently? yes public company where they don't use there own money at all to buy the club etc the figures show ashley is keeping the club alive with his own cash, so why would he take money out then He hasn’t put any money in, he’s lent the club £100m. His own money. 70 for the debt, and 30 to keep the club going (plus another £10 million on top in June according to the OP). -
Newcastle United Finances - 2008 Accounts Recently Filed
BottledDog replied to quayside's topic in Football
Ya what?