Benwell Lad

.....again. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1889580.ece I've nothing against them getting pissed before they're supposed to be playing a match BUT they could misbehave in their own city instead of our's. BTW does any player or official at Sunderland actually live in, or ever set foot in the place, apart from when they play their home matches ?

Yes, credit where due. As I said (contraversially ?) on another thread, on the basis of last nights game anyone involved in getting Gutierrez for £5M and selling Milner for £12M derseves credit too.

Sums that newspaper up really. I err on conservatism when assessing players perfomances but he was an 8 or 9 last night, and on top of that he looks as good (classy) as any CB in the Premier League right now.

By some fat, lazy, overpaid jounalists who can't be bothered to find any real news to write about.

:clap: Well said Ove. Interesting perspective of the way the rabid English press treat Barton as opposed to thugs like Keane.

Fans who think football is a fashion rather than a matter of life and death. The fact that St.James'Park was once the most intimidating stadium in football for opposition teams to play in but nowadays we're as likely to intimidate our own players as the opposition.

It's bad enough having English PL referees like Styles and Bennet thinking the crowd has paid to see THEM rather than the players, but for a TV station to give a referee a pundit's job is plain stupid. Especially a ref as bas as Poll was and who made a laughing stock of himself on the world stage. He does seem to have a bit of an anti NUFC agenda.

That obese hack they get on Sky - the one with the red face, greasy hair and specs (Curry ?) was almost apoplectic about Barton this morning trying to hype up a nothing incident to sound like GBH or something.

Decent shout.

If it really was your decision to bring in Gutierrez for £5M and sell Milner for £12M, showing a profit of £7M, then on tonight's performances you deserve a pay rise.

Most spirited Newcastle performance in a long time. Credit to Joe Kinnear for coming into a club which was on it's knees and dragging them up and making them show pride in playing for Newcastle.

Best CH I've seen in a long while. Superb.

Amazing how despite them spending £80M on players and having a big Roy & Niall love in while the world of Newcastle has implodes we're STILL above them. We don't REALLY intend intend to bring out a commemorative coffee mug do we ?

Honest question, are you against the NUSC because you're genuinely not in favour, or jealous that they're actually getting attention unlike your two-bob organisation? Sorry like, but this "two-bob organization" has been better spoken during this period of crisis than the NUSC, NUFC.com and all the crummy fanzines put together. They have insisted that only one thing will keep us united and one thing alone, and that is supporting the team 100% on the pitch. I dont think getting behind the team has been an issue over the last few games either. No you're right. It hasn't, but that's because the majority of fans have realised that getting behind the lads on the pitch is the only thing they CAN do. The Hull game, start of the second half when the mong banner was going around the ground, with no one paying attention to the play in a quiet SJP was probably the most sickening moment I have felt in my time as a supporter. I can take close defeats, and I can take maulings, and I can take shambolic tactics etc... it's all part of the game. But THAT specific incident I will never see it any other way. That moment felt like the nadir of my time as a Newcastle supporter too. We've had real bad times before but that feeling of no manager, no owner, a dejected team, hostile fans and these opportunists seeing it as their moment to gain attention in such a cringeworthy manner. and you - and others - support the person responsible for this ? Incredible. Actually, there has been far worse, but we won't go there. Its a long time ago now. You know, every time you post I imagine you as Smithers and Freddy Shepherd as Mr.Burns.

Completely different feeling. A bit like the difference between being beaten by an enemy or betrayed by a friend. One makes you angry and wanting to fight back, the other just makes you shake your head in disbelief.

Honest question, are you against the NUSC because you're genuinely not in favour, or jealous that they're actually getting attention unlike your two-bob organisation? Sorry like, but this "two-bob organization" has been better spoken during this period of crisis than the NUSC, NUFC.com and all the crummy fanzines put together. They have insisted that only one thing will keep us united and one thing alone, and that is supporting the team 100% on the pitch. I dont think getting behind the team has been an issue over the last few games either. No you're right. It hasn't, but that's because the majority of fans have realised that getting behind the lads on the pitch is the only thing they CAN do. The Hull game, start of the second half when the mong banner was going around the ground, with no one paying attention to the play in a quiet SJP was probably the most sickening moment I have felt in my time as a supporter. I can take close defeats, and I can take maulings, and I can take shambolic tactics etc... it's all part of the game. But THAT specific incident I will never see it any other way. That moment felt like the nadir of my time as a Newcastle supporter too. We've had real bad times before but that feeling of no manager, no owner, a dejected team, hostile fans and these opportunists seeing it as their moment to gain attention in such a cringeworthy manner.

So you dont want my money? thats fine, then heres the alternative. You get to go to the next meeting without joining and take part in everything other than votes, yet again though I expect you to put forward your views and again, report back on here about it. Im willing to be though that you wont take me up on it. Ive called your bluff and you dont have the bottle to turn up and see you're wrong. You also dont have any interest in actually doing anything for NUFC. Im not saying you dont support the club or love it anymore than the next fan but what I am saying is that you are an old man who likes to be an internet warrior. Shouting out about stuff in the relative privacy of the internet while sitting quietly nodding agreement with those in the pub "Oh aye Ashleys a s**** man aye" when you have a half of stout in your hand while taking the alternative "look at me Im all different" view on here. My betting is though that once theres something in it for you such as reductions on stuff in shops or getting to go to the talk ins with old players and such then you'll quietly sign up, get your all important membership card yet still slag it off on here. And thats the bit that will sadden me "I'll take what I can get but Im not willing to do anything for it" attitude. I've put forward all the things that will be in place to allow your voice to be heard and to ensure that the actual views of the fans are registered. Im guessing that you however are scared to take part in those things because deep down you know that when you do your myth about "the majority of fans" will be blown out of the water. Look at the above poll. No ambiguity there is there? You need to start proving that you are speaking for the fans rather than mouthing off at people whose views do not suit your agenda. You know how it is with politcians, they always try to gloss over and ignore unfavourable polls.

I think the results of the above poll and the fact that only 50 people bothered to turn up to their big meeting means they are anything but representative of Newcastle fans. It's arrogance beyond belief. God forbid that they would ever be given any real power. I don't think its looks too good on you either to criticise a group of people who are trying to do something for the greater good that they believe in, when you can't be arsed yourself to do anything, whether going with them or opposing them. I oppose them. And I'm offended that a few dozen publicity seekers claim to be "representative" of Newcastle fans, as it seems are the majority of supporters. Is this the same majority that you say back Ashley? I've got a deal for you or at least for one of those that oppose the NUSC so strongly and reckon we wont listen to you. I will pay your membership on condition you turn up at the next meeting and make your voice heard and then more importantly report back on it here. I'm slightly offended by that offer. I don't need yours or anyone else's money so please don't try and score points with such a condescending offer. If something is worth subscribing to I will. I have no desire to be at any meeting held by such a small number of insignificant yet self important publicity seeking people. Were it a body with any semblance of credibility then irrespective of their agenda they would be worth listening to, however considering Newcastle's fan base runs into hundreds of thousands and only fifty people could be bothered to turn up to support their agenda, then right now the Dinnington Village Women's Institute have as much chance of helping Newcastle United progress as do the so called NUSC. This is a group who displayed banners with slogans like "Cockney mafia out" and "Taxi for Ashley" and now send an open letter asking him to meet them. Not the brightest of people. I don't get this. You say you have your opinion, which differs from the NUSC. Fair enough, you are entitled to this. So why not take up the offer ? I wouldn't have thought anybody would have a go at you for having an opinion - especially in a respectable place like the Irish Centre. I personally don't think that the cockney mafia banner did anybody any favours but that doesn't really matter, a group of people looking for some change have every right to do this if they want to do it. I wouldn't say they are a small, insignificant group of people. I don't know how old you are but do you remember Malcolm Dix, who campaigned for years to get the change that was badly needed at the club ? Did you think he was a small insignificant person ? Or were you happy enough to take the much needed change when it eventually happened ? Yes I remember Malcolm Dix and of course the Magpie Group. I supported the Magpie group but always found Dix, well a bit of a dick actually, certainly a serial attention seeker. Regarding age, well I'm old enough to have been a member of the real Supporters club, when it did what it said on the label i.e. a club for supporters and arranged away travel etc, and not a politicised group who use the expression falsely. This new bunch should just come clean and call themselves the "Anti Ashley Club".

So you dont want my money? thats fine, then heres the alternative. You get to go to the next meeting without joining and take part in everything other than votes, yet again though I expect you to put forward your views and again, report back on here about it. Im willing to be though that you wont take me up on it. Ive called your bluff and you dont have the bottle to turn up and see you're wrong. You also dont have any interest in actually doing anything for NUFC. Im not saying you dont support the club or love it anymore than the next fan but what I am saying is that you are an old man who likes to be an internet warrior. Shouting out about stuff in the relative privacy of the internet while sitting quietly nodding agreement with those in the pub "Oh aye Ashleys a s**** man aye" when you have a half of stout in your hand while taking the alternative "look at me Im all different" view on here. My betting is though that once theres something in it for you such as reductions on stuff in shops or getting to go to the talk ins with old players and such then you'll quietly sign up, get your all important membership card yet still slag it off on here. And thats the bit that will sadden me "I'll take what I can get but Im not willing to do anything for it" attitude. I've put forward all the things that will be in place to allow your voice to be heard and to ensure that the actual views of the fans are registered. Im guessing that you however are scared to take part in those things because deep down you know that when you do your myth about "the majority of fans" will be blown out of the water. Thanks for telling me what I'm really thinking and what I say. Sadly you're wrong on all counts and I certainly don't drink halves. Your prejudice and condescending attitude fits well with the so called NUSC's way of going about things.

I think the results of the above poll and the fact that only 50 people bothered to turn up to their big meeting means they are anything but representative of Newcastle fans. It's arrogance beyond belief. God forbid that they would ever be given any real power. I don't think its looks too good on you either to criticise a group of people who are trying to do something for the greater good that they believe in, when you can't be arsed yourself to do anything, whether going with them or opposing them. I oppose them. And I'm offended that a few dozen publicity seekers claim to be "representative" of Newcastle fans, as it seems are the majority of supporters. Is this the same majority that you say back Ashley? I've got a deal for you or at least for one of those that oppose the NUSC so strongly and reckon we wont listen to you. I will pay your membership on condition you turn up at the next meeting and make your voice heard and then more importantly report back on it here. I'm slightly offended by that offer. I don't need yours or anyone else's money so please don't try and score points with such a condescending offer. If something is worth subscribing to I will. I have no desire to be at any meeting held by such a small number of insignificant yet self important publicity seeking people. Were it a body with any semblance of credibility then irrespective of their agenda they would be worth listening to, however considering Newcastle's fan base runs into hundreds of thousands and only fifty people could be bothered to turn up to support their agenda, then right now the Dinnington Village Women's Institute have as much chance of helping Newcastle United progress as do the so called NUSC. This is a group who displayed banners with slogans like "Cockney mafia out" and "Taxi for Ashley" and now send an open letter asking him to meet them. Not the brightest of people.

I think the results of the above poll and the fact that only 50 people bothered to turn up to their big meeting means they are anything but representative of Newcastle fans. It's arrogance beyond belief. God forbid that they would ever be given any real power. I don't think its looks too good on you either to criticise a group of people who are trying to do something for the greater good that they believe in, when you can't be arsed yourself to do anything, whether going with them or opposing them. I oppose them. And I'm offended that a few dozen publicity seekers claim to be "representative" of Newcastle fans, as it seems are the majority of supporters.

I think the results of the above poll and the fact that only 50 people bothered to turn up to their big meeting means they are anything but representative of Newcastle fans. It's arrogance beyond belief. God forbid that they would ever be given any real power.

This is created by people who chuck litter on the ground not the people dishing out flyers. Bit like Wrigleys are not to blame for City Centre pavements having black circles all over them. Yes. The people who produce the flyers truly believe they will be read diligently and then carefully placed in a litter bin. No wonder you fell for the NUSC propoganda. You and 49 others it seems. Anyway the point was not taking a leaflet equals not being a Newcastle supporter in the eyes of those handing them out. How pompous is that ? And I would agree totally, that kind of attitude should have had no place in it. The leaflets I handed out were offered and if it looked like they werent interested I withdrew my hand. Not a problem at all, its everyones right to read or ignore anything thats handed to them and frankly Id rather it was turned down than be taken and just lobbed away without reading. All I can say in defence of the NUSC is that was clearly NOT an instruction to those leafletting. All were clearly told to just offer, never force and walk away in any kind of confrontation and under no circumstances get involved in an argument. Thanks for clarifying that, I appreciate it. If everyone had adopted your attitude I'm sure they would be taken more seriously.

This is created by people who chuck litter on the ground not the people dishing out flyers. Bit like Wrigleys are not to blame for City Centre pavements having black circles all over them. Yes. The people who produce the flyers truly believe they will be read diligently and then carefully placed in a litter bin. No wonder you fell for the NUSC propoganda. You and 49 others it seems. Anyway the point was not taking a leaflet equals not being a Newcastle supporter in the eyes of those handing them out. How pompous is that ?