Shak

Very close so far, I voted "stick with". I voted get rid just to spite you... Bad night all round for you, eh?

Give the job to Bill Belicheck I say.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,,2232370,00.html To be fair I would not want my future in them players hands either It's the nature of the job though, the manager and players are linked. It's a gutless deflection of blame, plain and simple.

Can only hope you're on a wind-up mate. If he's actually said the part in bold then that's absolutely appalling. You're right like, not just the bit in bold either, the whole statement is bang out of order, for so many reasons. It's all a big deflection of blame from himself, which managers do all the time to be fair. Without the bit in bold it can be seen as challenging your players to raise their game. But the bit in bold is basically saying "It's the players who are the problem, not me". He's selling his own players down the river to try and make himself look less culpable. Shocked by him tbh, thought he had a bit more spine.

Just read it, seems genuine. Lost the plot it seems.

Can only hope you're on a wind-up mate. If he's actually said the part in bold then that's absolutely appalling.

Precisely. We won't go down IMO, but we'll not be far off unless there's a significant increase in the quality of our football. Our fixture list is an absolute bastard from here on in, shocking to think that we've actually been lucky at times this season and we're still in the bottom half despite the easiest fixture list imaginable.

I'll bet Allardyce masturbates to videos of 0-0 draws, aroused beyond belief by the dull football and negative tactics. And this picture also, obviously.

Factamundo, like.

how do you know that aye,this needs answering I'd imagine it's just what Skirge thinks to be the case, rather than any sort of ITK information.

You just have a thing for big, powerful black men tbh.

Agree, a lot of people really are overly pessimistic about who we can/can't attract. The Premiership is the league to be in, by far the richest league in the world and as more and more teams become minted then more and more top quality players will be present in the league. Outside the top 4, we're as attractive as anyone for managers looking to come to England.

He's just not a midfielder at all, baffling decision from Sam.

Some are, the ones with the patronising "Oh you have to give him time, you're just being impatient" attitude. While there's a truth in what they're saying, none seem willing to admit that we don't appear to be making any sort of slow, steady progress, which is all I really expected from this season. Our football and performances are getting worse, and Allardyce is making the same mistakes which seem so obvious. As angry and frustarted as I am with our football, I know deep down that sacking him now probably isn't a good idea at all. But how anyone can't be very disapointed and extremely worried by everything we've seen from our team under Allardyce is beyond me.

Ah shut your face, you.

Don't really see what was different about him, judging by today's game for West Ham anyway.

I'd prefer him to a Moyes, Redknapp, Hughes, which would just be a pointless sidestep IMO. Obviously we get no gaurantees with Shearer, but I don't see where people get the idea that he would be a certain failure.

It's laughable really.

Do you think we'll finish 9th if we continue with such a deplorable quality of football? Please keep in mind we've had by far and away the easiest part of our fixture list so far this year and it face away games to almost all the top teams in the remaining part of the season. im a 10th/11th man myself, but in the context of this thread, where would you see us finishing if we had the either of the last 2 managers in charge now? we wouldnt be 9th. That's very arguable tbh, even if SA is a better manager than our previous two. What exactly about us this season has been so impressive that our previous managers couldn't have replicated it?

So we had one good game, stemming from our ability to disrupt teams who actually try and play proper football with our ugly style. Oh joy. As for the questions... I think we have progressed in some ways, but not really enough to make up for how resounding a no you have to answer the other questions with. He may get it right in time, but I'm becoming less and less convinced. So we get rid - who would you like to see come in, and how long does the next manager get? I mean, Sam is just about to complete his 7th month at the club, and 4th of the season. How long does the next managre have to get us higher than 9th? And which is more important to most supporters - playing good but maybe not getting results and being lower half of the table, or playing bad and getting resutls here and there, but being in the top half of the table? I'd not sack him now btw, give him until the end of the season at least. But we're not making steady progress at all, which is all I expected. The players look as confused now as they did at the season's start, I'm not seeing any indication that anything Sam is doing is even beginning to click. Is this not justifiable cause for concern? And we won't eep getting results playing bad for long, surely you can see this?

Do you think we'll finish 9th if we continue with such a deplorable quality of football? Please keep in mind we've had by far and away the easiest part of our fixture list so far this year and it face away games to almost all the top teams in the remaining part of the season.

So we had one good game, stemming from our ability to disrupt teams who actually try and play proper football with our ugly style. Oh joy. As for the questions... I think we have progressed in some ways, but not really enough to make up for how resounding a no you have to answer the other questions with. He may get it right in time, but I'm becoming less and less convinced.

About 5000 I think. Let's get a result for them lads. Dave's there... It's not gonna happen.

C'mon, three points needed!!

Just think, if you'd have got rid of MON after the first 18 games or so, you could be going to Chelsea and hammering them. It's no laughing matter, to let a lead slip away to the former Champions who haven't been beaten at home in over 50 games, is scandalous. If I were Brummie, I'd be down Villa Park now protesting. Get a grip mate. Irony? HTT's done nowt wrong tbh. Basically patronising everyone who has dared to point out that Sam has been making some absolutely horrible decisions. Suppose he's entitled to do so if he wants, though, you're right.