Jimburst

Not much of an update there then...just what we already knew

Get him back, we don't have anyone with anything like what he had in his locker!!!11oneone!11!!

Baffling.

Being that muppet who walked in front of the camera at about 1:20 ISN'T 'meeting' Ronaldo.

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We rot absolutely ripped, simple as. Embarassing, but tbh, their team is so much better than ours, we should be getting ripped.

Come on lads, lets get a draw, and try and scrap a win!

How senile was Motson? Woeful commentary, as per usual. "That was a soft penalty just given to England there, but it was definately a penalty. You know things in football tend to even themselves out? Well this makes up for the penalty England were awarded when Rooney was taken down from outside the box." Such logic!

Its like a radar for c***s. but not good ones.

I'll get over it pretty quick, Im just dissapointed we arent in it, I do enjoy the summer tourneys.

You were joking, right?

No beef with Europe at all. Just not keen on people assuming the world revolves around Europe and everyone else should change what they do to accommodate Europeans. Expecting the world to fit in with what Europe does is arrogant though tbh. The reasons for holding the ACN in Jan/Feb have already been mentioned. The sport doesn't belong to England, Britain or Europe - Africa have the right to hold their tournament whenever the f*** they like. If this ruffles a few feathers then yes, 'tough s***'. I just hope you are just as outraged when the likes of Given, Owen, Viduka, Emre, Milner and Taylor are called upon to represent their countries. Cos that's totally different isn't it? Well, it is actually. We make time in our own league to accomodate the internationals... Also, the world/european cups aren't in season time, but if they were, I would be very pissed off if I saw the players mentioned fucking off to play in some cup.

Whats your beef with Europe, midds? Got something to say? Nah, I don't accept its arrogance when the solution makes more sense then the current plan in place. However, at this point I cant think of a solution as I'm not in possession of all the facts. Just 'tough shit' isn't the way to decide upon the impact this has on many football teams across the world, It should be dealt with properly. Newcastle need Martins, and so (presumably) do Nigeria, when there is a conflic of interests, is not the least "arrogant" action to negotiate? Arrogance implies that we assume our game is more important. In that respect I believe we must be arrogant, because in the end, club football (IMO) is more important to the overall game of football than internationals. I do agree with you though midds (to an extent), but it shouldnt be "Tough Sh*t".

Because the ACN is slap bang in the middle of the domestic season for most of these players perhaps? So that means he doesn't deserve to have adequate time to get his squad sorted? He has to wait until the thing starts before calling his squad together, purely to appease European football fans? Seems a little arrogant, no? Absolutely, but the fact of the matter is that the European leagues are much more important than the ACN, if they wanted preparation time then they should hold it the same time as the European Championships. So Africa should arrange their own Continental Championships to fit in with the European domestic leagues? For the sake of convenience; Yes - why can't they? The tournament has no need to be in a specific place, does it? Why not make it easier for everyone involved and situate it during the off season? For the sake of the tournament; Yes - players will all have no excuse but to attend, and all teams will have enough preperation time without DISRUPTING european leagues. Because the ACN is slap bang in the middle of the domestic season for most of these players perhaps? So that means he doesn't deserve to have adequate time to get his squad sorted? He has to wait until the thing starts before calling his squad together, purely to appease European football fans? Seems a little arrogant, no? Your arrogance point goes both ways...Is it not arrogant of Vogts to demand the players from the teams they play for with no hint of apology? No suggestion from ANC that it might be willing to find a solution to the problem posed? Sorry Jim, I think whining about losing African players so they can go off and represent their countries is ridiculous. If the African Football Federation choose to hold their Championships in Jan/Feb then they have every right to do so. Saying it should be held at the same time as the European Championships just to fit in with us is absurd. Do you realise how hot parts of Africa get during June and July? Still, never mind eh? As long as we're ok, eh? Are you saying that European national teams are more important than African ones? That European countries deserve adequate preparation time prior to Continental Championships but African national teams don't? It wouldnt be a problem if the majority of leagues in which african players play had their off season in jan, but that is not the case. Many of the first teamers for african countries play in the first teams for european domestic teams. Now, to suggest that one is more important than the other is another debate entirely, but I cannot see how the problem is going to be resolved if neither the europeans or the africans are willing to negotiate. The fact is; neither continent are completely satisfied, and I doubt either ever will be when it comes to the ACN. Looking at it from the african perspective, I can see no issue other than the heat of july stopping it being moved. It's not a matter of perceived 'importance' of either side, but simple convenience.

Because the ACN is slap bang in the middle of the domestic season for most of these players perhaps? So that means he doesn't deserve to have adequate time to get his squad sorted? He has to wait until the thing starts before calling his squad together, purely to appease European football fans? Seems a little arrogant, no? Absolutely, but the fact of the matter is that the European leagues are much more important than the ACN, if they wanted preparation time then they should hold it the same time as the European Championships. So Africa should arrange their own Continental Championships to fit in with the European domestic leagues? For the sake of convenience; Yes - why can't they? The tournament has no need to be in a specific place, does it? Why not make it easier for everyone involved and situate it during the off season? For the sake of the tournament; Yes - players will all have no excuse but to attend, and all teams will have enough preperation time without DISRUPTING european leagues. Because the ACN is slap bang in the middle of the domestic season for most of these players perhaps? So that means he doesn't deserve to have adequate time to get his squad sorted? He has to wait until the thing starts before calling his squad together, purely to appease European football fans? Seems a little arrogant, no? Your arrogance point goes both ways...Is it not arrogant of Vogts to demand the players from the teams they play for with no hint of apology? No suggestion from ANC that it might be willing to find a solution to the problem posed?

Listen to this man, he KNOWS.

We arent playing through midfield, we need to play like we did in the first 3 mins, we dominated then! We can win this, we just need to calm it down (like sunderland did) Come on!

Ah...Team... Well, come on then! lets rock these mackems, send em back down! HOWAY THE TOON!

If only we could take the piss out of their manager! Anyone aanyone got a couple of hundred unspeyed dogs and a bucket of lube?

Not bollocks. I was told Jol met Shepherd, apparently agreed the basis of a deal and on the strength of that, FFS asked for formal permission to speak to MJ. Levy had already got wind of the meeting and refused permission and gave Jol an improved contract to keep him happy. FFS then moved on with Allardyce. The only difference between FFS/MJ and Spurs board/JR was that Spurs were stupid enough to hold the meeting in a swish hotel regularly checked out by the paperazzi. This makes no sense. Why the f*** would Jol leave Spurs for us? (at the time) I don't believe for a second Jol's job was in jeopardy at the time we appointed Allardyce. was that not why MJ says that levy said no?

Fucking pathetic, I...ARGH!!

COME ONNNNN!1!!1!!! Dubry OG

He just gave himself a little smile think Jol is really gone? congratulating himself and all...

tee hee! levy...looking odd as per usual