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Luke Edwards reckons it could be Bruce DOF and Jones Manager/Head Coach.

superb from Craig Hope, as usual.

can anyone post the athletic piece in here?

Jones is here to replace Bruce. 100%.

It will be pulis, Hughes or Pearson. There’s no doubt about it.

Danny Welbeck available for £5.5m, can see Bruce wanting him. (I think I’m in the wrong thread here).

Just for Udinese to send him on loan to West Ham. So they can send him on loan to Watford.

God, Gary cook is awful wasn't he an ex general manager of nike and heavily involved in the jordan brand? sure he's well experienced in sporting brand growth, unless I'm thinking of another guy.

May I ask why? Not saying your wrong but Poch hasn't won anything so other than progressing teams and being younger than Rafa not sure how he out manages Rafa in any real area? Well one of the reasons as I said is I just wouldn’t go back, it very rarely works. Secondly I think if we were to have a shot at pochettino I think we’d be mad not to take it. He plays the type of football we’d all love to see, he’s a young progressive coach and it’s probably only a matter of time before he’s snapped up by a PSG/Man City/Real Madrid type elite club, we’d be mad not to execute the opportunity should it present itself. Rafa’s mint, we all love him and rightly so, but he won’t get another elite club and there’s probably a reason for that, so for those reasons I’d grab Poch ahead of Rafa should the opportunity arise. Are there any examples of returns to former clubs which mirror the situation we potentially find ourselves in? This is a start from scratch project with basically unlimited resources. Pochettino absolutely has the attention of the big clubs but that doesn't mean he's the best managerial option. I have no doubt he offers the best chance of getting us to the next step, as he has done with every club he's managed but he's yet to turn that into silverware which should be our ultimate goal. Why go for someone who has no evidence of the ability to win silverware over someone who has a proven track record of it? The top top managers win trophies anywhere, it's a skill. You either have it or you dont, I dont think Pochettino has it. To be fair to Rafa, he was literally at the biggest club in the world before Newcastle, that's a hell of a step down which makes a potential return all the more poignant. I'm not sure it's fair to assume he's done at the top level off the back of his time at Newcastle and the fact he's now in China (overseeing a $300m project), his CV is still right up there with the very best. Had his contract ended sooner, who knows which club he'd have been at, I dont seem to reme.ber too many vacancies around the time he left (baring in mind it was very very late in the summer). Just in case anyone not clear, I'd really like Rafa, but I'm very surprised at all those who'd even entertain Poch over Allegri who would be my number 2 choice for many of the reason I've stated above. Our situation is unique, granted, but managerial returns in the whole have a history of not working. I don’t know anywhere near enough about allegri to want him, as I said in my first post I’m just not familiar enough with him to say. Rafa’s great, I was a huge fan and still am, but there’s a reason his last two clubs have been a relegation threatened nufc and a club in China, the Real Madrid gig came largely out of the blue to him as he was on his way to West Ham. I’ll be surprised to ever see him amongst the elite again, but I could be wrong. Everything I’m saying makes me sound as if I don’t rate him, which couldn’t be more wrong, I would just take a fresh approach that’s all.

Unless he has a clause in his contract of course..... That’s true, but if he walks away from what appears to be a project both sides are heavily invested in then I’d be surprised, given the type of guy he seems to be.

Why’s that mate? I genuine know very little about him, although I see a very impressive cv.

Not to mention the fact I don’t think we’d get rafa, I can’t see him leaving that ‘project’ so early on and he doesn’t break contracts.

May I ask why? Not saying your wrong but Poch hasn't won anything so other than progressing teams and being younger than Rafa not sure how he out manages Rafa in any real area? Well one of the reasons as I said is I just wouldn’t go back, it very rarely works. Secondly I think if we were to have a shot at pochettino I think we’d be mad not to take it. He plays the type of football we’d all love to see, he’s a young progressive coach and it’s probably only a matter of time before he’s snapped up by a PSG/Man City/Real Madrid type elite club, we’d be mad not to execute the opportunity should it present itself. Rafa’s mint, we all love him and rightly so, but he won’t get another elite club and there’s probably a reason for that, so for those reasons I’d grab Poch ahead of Rafa should the opportunity arise.

I would prefer we looked at alternatives to Rafa, I take all of the points about him having a blueprint and unfinished business etc, but i just wouldn't go back, it very rarely works. We've fond memories of Benitez and rightly so, but i'd leave it there, personally. Pochettino would be my first choice, I don't know enough about Allegri's style, but its obviously a very impressive CV! but Poch would be the one i'd go for.

Allardyce on talksport earlier; 'I have no idea why Rafa was seen to have done a good job at newcastle, he was so negative and he did a wonderful PR job for himself in making the fans believe he did a good job up there'.

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Was thinking the same, where is he?

New 6 year deal signed Superb

BBC and Sky now saying he’s not going anywhere

A big bid will come in for Lascelles before the end of the window. A proper club wouldn't sell for less than £60m imo but I'd imagine Ashley will accept £30m and think he's won the daft fucking cunt. Nah. We may sell him (which is a disgrace) but it won’t be for £30m. We always seem to get decent fees, which makes our derisory offers the other way all the more infuriating. We'll see. Sissoko was obviously insane money at the time. For me you don't let Lascelles go for more than say Stones but I think Ashley has lost the plot myself. He'll take sub £40m for him imo. Carroll was insane money at the time (whether we should have sold or not is another debate, I still say we shouldn’t have sold him) as well. Imagine if we sold lascelles man? Jesus. It’s asking for relegation that.