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He turns 24 almost at the start of the season. Pretty big gamble if we are assuming he'll magically become a much better player here at this stage of his career. Main reason for buying him has to be that his profile fits into Howe's plans.

yeah, that was what I said...? History, getting to play in front of 75k fans and potential of the club is all well and good, but not enough unless you're offering more than better ran clubs that can either offer CL now or a pathway (with track record) to move up the food chain .

Even if he doesn't ccome good here, i.e a bit underwhelming and Murphy ends up being preferring more times ahead of him than not, at 17m we should probably be able to turn a profit on him after a season or two unless he absolutely stinks the place out, which it doesn't look like he would. Edit: Very low risk signing we absolutely should be in for. Edit edit: And of course if he comes good, we've got a fantastic bargain that allows us to focus more resources on other needed positions.

Pretty naive to not think the wages Man Utd can offer isn't their biggest pull atm. Unless its trying to sign a player who's been a fan since childhood. The history, getting to play in front of 75k fans and potential of the club if they get their shit together is a nice bonus, but if they aren't paying above what other interested clubs are offering, I can't see why anyone would choose Man Utd. You'er kind of in the situation we were in early 00's after missing out on CL. Only reason we got (shitty) big names in was because of what we paid them more than anyone else would.

2 players actually under 21 in the England side, none in the czech one. Why is football so stupid

Paraphrasing a bit, but it was Howe in a press conference early on saying we don't just look for good players but good characters, which got translated into "no dickheads" which I imagine isn't far from the original intent of Howes wording.

Got absolutely merked by Ryerson from Lyngdal which resulted in Norways thrid goal. Sell.

He's had two seasons with Nottingham Forest whom have been playing a low block and hitting teams on the counter. Hope he has a good work rate and is adaptable to a high press. I love his pace and that he can cut inside to shoot or go outside and cross, so he'll definitely strengthen our squad. If Eddie wants him above cheaper alternatives and possibly at the expense of other areas that could use strenghtening then so be it. I don't think there's an issue with the player, but I can see it coming back to bite Howe in the ass at the end of the season though in the event that we start getting injuries to a few key players for a lenghty period of time which starts affecting our results. We can't really excuse him for poor results due to injuries if we've burned our budget on say 2 new players.

Doku in our team is 2x the player and way more exciting to watch than he is in Borediolas system. I don't know anything about him as a person, but going by skill alone I'd probably have him over both Gordon and Barnes.

Yeah, I'd love to see them given a chance too. Some rise to the occasion, some don't. Chelsea sold Hall for psr.

Tino and Hall had already had their breakthrough when we bought them, by being given enough time to show what they can do in the PL by Southampton and Chelsea. Of course, more players will not make it than those who will, but we won't know until we give them a chance.

We'll never unearth talents here if we aren't prepared to give talents the opportunity. Both Miley and Osula got criminally little game time this season imo. If they don't get more next season they should get as quick and far away from here as possible for their own sake. With peace and love, the "he hasn't shown enough" crowd can go fuck themselves. Can't show anything if you aren't getting meaningful game time.

I thought their documentary series was funnier than ours.

They already need to strengther their whole squad. Would be a massive blow for them if they start the transfer window having to replace one of their best players on top of that. £25m doesn't help them mucch, if any imo. They're better off keeping him.

He's got 3 years left on his contract, so unless there's a release clause triggered they'd be mad to accept. A half decent season in the PL and they can double that amount.

If we end up not getting him, and Brentford isn't keeping him, I can't think of any other (realistic) place I'd like to see him go than Man Utd. He would drain a huge amount of money in transfer fee and wages (without this made up CL/no CL clause) from them while being unsuitable for Amorims system.

Is this the new thing instead of ballers?

Wish I had seen this post sooner. Still 34 new unread posts, but wasted too much time on reading about nothing apparently

Exactly If he can be managed/rotated so he is available ~70-75% of the season without playing with minor injuries that affect his performance, I think he'll be extremely scary too.

And managed that by playing through injury in two periods of the season where he was really ineffective and contributed nearly nothing. Reckon he'd start 27-28 games if he only played when fit, but its impossible to know exactly how many games it was.

Clearly not enough experience in this Inter team. They went for youthful vigor and it failed. Put on De Vrij, Darmian and Arnautovic to shore things up.

Serie A jobs for the boys

They'll end up bending over and paying him £180k, without this mythical CL/no CL clause. He'll continue having these muscle injuries, playing on and off with the odd glimpse of promise until he's 26 suddenly realizing he isn't 20 anymore and wonder wtf happened. Then he'll move to west ham on a free to maintain his wages and retire at 33.

Don't you think that may be the biggest reason why there was literally nowhere else he wanted to go?

*If he can stay injury free