Ronaldo

Both Rooney and Shearer had 1 fantastic tournament for England. Stop talking crap, man. Shearer has 9 in 12 at tournments, Rooney 6 in 14. Rooney got 4 of those against Switzerland & Croatia, you're trying to compare that to what Shearer did at Euro 96? You're the one talking crap, as per. What are you trying to imply, that Shearer's was a better out-and-out goalscorer than Wayne Rooney - including when Shearer had penalties? Well fucking done, he was.

He's old and completely reliant on his jaded link with NUFC to pay his heating bill etc.

Both Rooney and Shearer had 1 fantastic tournament for England. Stop talking crap, man. Just because it's not in line with your views, doesn't mean he's talking crap Mate, the last time you took issue with 'my views' I'd just told you we were playing shit under McClaren and our January transfer window business was inadequate. I'd have thought you'd have embraced the logic in sharing opinions with a modicum of factual basis by now, like.

Colback, Colo and Elliot, man.

Both Rooney and Shearer had 1 fantastic tournament for England. Stop talking crap, man.

Clearly not if he's saying Shearer was 10 times better.

Spot on. Shearer banged goals in consistently, against all sides despite three potentially career ending injuries. Rooney is a flat track bully. Happy to get a couple against wank teams, and gets to (badly) take the penalties which inflate his stats, but he always goes missing against half decent sides. Shearer was ten times the player Rooney is. What a dreadful post. Rooney might be past his best now but he's been a class act for the best part of 14 years. If Rooney had been a penalty taker throughout his career he'd not be far behind Shearer's PL record now. And that doesn't touch on how many goals he's helped create for others.

Kane isn't a gamble, and nobody has advocated leaving him out anyway. Kane has to start, no question. Aye. Gamble was definitely the wrong word. I think I meant to say Roy should have the conviction to leave Rooney out of any starting line up. Thing is, Roy knows that if we fail at the Euros he won't be in charge come the next World Cup. He'll pick his best team.

Kane isn't a gamble, and nobody has advocated leaving him out anyway. Kane has to start, no question.

That might just be our Bosingwa game this time round.

Until reminded that in the space of 12 months we had Joe Kinnear as director of football, John Carver as manager and Fabricio Coloccini as captain.

Name 4 strikers better or 4 attacking midfielders better. No? Exactly. Rooney is a striker who has Kane, Vardy, Sturridge at the very least ahead of him. They won't take four attacking midfielders but he surely would be behind Alli and Barkley. On this season's form, he should be nowhere near the England squad, and nor should he on tournament history. You still can't name 4 strikers who should go ahead of him. It's worth mentioning that Rooney's generally been good for England since the WC and scored plenty of goals. He's been poor for Man U with the shackles on, granted. Rewriting history again Ron, as is your wont. I remember you giving it a couple of years before informing us that Rooney had had a good Euro 2012. He's been average despite knocking in a few goals, and we look far better without him. FWIW, I'd take Welbeck ahead of him too. 11 goals in 15 games since the World Cup. That's a fact, by the way, not a rewriting of history. And what I actually said was he was good in the 2 games he played in Euro '12, which he was.

Name 4 strikers better or 4 attacking midfielders better. No? Exactly. Rooney is a striker who has Kane, Vardy, Sturridge at the very least ahead of him. They won't take four attacking midfielders but he surely would be behind Alli and Barkley. On this season's form, he should be nowhere near the England squad, and nor should he on tournament history. You still can't name 4 strikers who should go ahead of him. It's worth mentioning that Rooney's generally been good for England since the WC and scored plenty of goals. He's been poor for Man U with the shackles on, granted.

There's nowt to be said to mongs like that. 20 years ago the same was being said about Shearer. Rooney needs to find a way to reinvent his game a bit, but he's not going to do that under a manager who uses him exclusively as a workhorse.

Name 4 strikers better or 4 attacking midfielders better. No? Exactly.

Better team throughout. So much cause for optimism.

Sounds especially stupid given that he's still one of our best options in multiple positions. Either way you take 4 strikers and he's easily one of them.

Look so much better since Welbeck went off.

He takes a fair few.

What a goal that is out of nothing.

Because he looked up and saw Butland was hobbling about like James Caan at the end of Misery.

We've largely played well since the WC.

I love you Yorkie but you really do need to stop commenting on non-Nufc related football matters.

I meant him flying in training.

Isn't the source for that Lee Ryder?