Ronaldo

Replaced with better ones off the bench. You're such a fucking weakling, man. Oh let's excuse another 3-0 defeat because they were forced to bring 2 'better' players on off the bench.

Against one of the worst Sunlun sides I can remember who'd lost 2 players through injury.

Steve Howey (largely in praise) calls him a big lad whose distribution lets him down. Thickest cunt going.

Not really, Colo can have outstanding matches where he looks boss, but then there will be games where he struggles against the pace and power strikers. Unfortunately that's the case with the rest of our cb's as well. We needed to buy a big hard cb in the John Terry mode. Tiote always looks rusty after a long lay off and generally starts to look much better after a few games to get up to speed. Or we were just up against the shittest group of players in the league.

I'd forgotten being hideously outpaced by Steven Fletcher then needlessly barging him over in the box constitutes valid defensive work, like. I'd say that's shit defensive work.

By that logic, you would be happy to see us sack McClaren and appoint Curbishly to be seen as "doing something"? Happy? We're discussing the prospect of us going down or staying up, there's not a single hint of 'happy'. Would Curbishley keep us up? No, he wouldn't. Allardyce will keep them up. Silly example. Allardyce isn't keeping them up like. They're toilet, as the first 45 showed. Allardyce teams generally are toilet. They also score enough goals and see out enough games to get just enough points on the board.

Colo could literally walk off the field 20 minutes into a game in order to catch a flight to Argentina and Paully would still come out with the old 'playing really well until' spiel. Embarrassing.

By that logic, you would be happy to see us sack McClaren and appoint Curbishly to be seen as "doing something"? Happy? We're discussing the prospect of us going down or staying up, there's not a single hint of 'happy'. Would Curbishley keep us up? No, he wouldn't. Allardyce will keep them up. Silly example. Fine. Sack SMC for Di Canio? Poyet? Advocaat? Well you're even thicker than I thought. Congrats. Enjoy your morning.

By that logic, you would be happy to see us sack McClaren and appoint Curbishly to be seen as "doing something"? Happy? We're discussing the prospect of us going down or staying up, there's not a single hint of 'happy'. Would Curbishley keep us up? No, he wouldn't. Allardyce will keep them up. Silly example.

We all know Allardyce won't take them down. It just won't happen, unfortunately. We've got a better side but there's more chance of McClaren taking us down.

Well, that's not really the point. The teams around us have seen they're in trouble and have done something to remedy it. We won't. We'll just keep slipping.

Ignore them, man. Region of fucking losers. Born with nowt, die with now, do nowt to change it, don't know any better. Pity them all.

There'd be a fair point in there somewhere if it wasn't for the fact that the teams around us (Sunderland, Villa) hadn't recognized they had problems and done something about it. We won't, we don't. Too expensive to sack and replace managers, to invest in proper defenders etc.

Did they have 6 points after 10 games?

Any that disregards the goalkeeper, the defence, the midfield and aspects of the attack. We're quality apart from that.

Why do you keep posting this crap as if completely unaware of what just happened in the game to cause that result. Your reasoning is extending about as far as "yer but theyre rubbish tho". Its been explained enough man. Cause that result. Thick.

Of course there were. Again we failed to take advantage of possession against an incredibly poor side and defended like cunts. I can't wait for next week. Can't wait.

You been sniffing glue today, Kets? Honestly, we've just lost 3-0 to the worst side in the league (again) and people want to take positives and spread optimism. I can't decide whether you're in complete denial or just completely fucking dumb.

The don't explain it per se. But a bad refereeing call doesn't entirely break the chain of causation when virtually any other PL defender deals with that situation with ease.

How about the fact you don't get points for keeping the ball, then? Or that we have the worst defence in the league and haven't scored in half our games? The writing's on the wall. Without investment we're down and out.

We're 19th after 10 games and have our only decent GK out for the season. That should answer your question.

You don't think that wrongly being down to 10 men and a goal down is a legitimate excuse? As shit as Sunderland are, that's a substantial handicap. Even then, we were still playing all the football until they grabbed a fluky second. We went onto the field with a substantial handicap. It's called non-investment and failure to address the real issues facing the squad in favour of prioritising short-term profit.

yet people claiming the key moment in todays game- has nothing to do with the way the club is run. Exactly. It's fucking madness. Coloccini's spent the last couple of seasons (at least) looking ludicrously vulnerable against even the poorest of strikers. Something like this is always on the verge of happening with him such are his physical deficiencies

Eh? We completely dominated the game with 11 men and could easily have been 2 or 3 up. But we weren't 2 or 3 up. man. Please stop being a tool.

Canny ridiculous to say it denied us a win seeing as we didn't score a goal. One of the 3-0s at home, all the excuses were about Cisse being ruled offside for a goal. Does no other team get a bad decision against sunderland, seeing as it's only us that they absolutely thrash consistently? Sick of hearing the excuses. Precisely. It wasn't one bad decision, it was a succession culminating with Cattermole somehow not getting booked and us with 10 men. We were the better team until the fluke 2nd goal and then it fell apart, pull yourselves together ffs. Mojo, me and you get on and I think you're a smashing lad but this is one of those occasions me and you often arrive at where it's obvious we're gonna take opposing views. I believe in football you make your own luck and if you're going to lace your team with inexperience, defensive incompetence, no leadership and no proven goalscorer you're asking to be utterly bitten in the arse with decisions from time to time.