Kimbo

I wasn't talking about him specifically, was i? I said i haven't heard of us attempting to get a really good manager, only guys like Bruce, Allardyce etc. Why am i even bothering? I explained this in thread at the time. I asked you time and again who we should approach and you bottled it because you knew you were talking reactionary opionated utter s**** come on. 'world class managers' I think you said I do recall you couldn't decide whether we don't approach them, or just don't offer them enough money, but then again, you never let having a consistent opinion get in the way of a post There's MANY managers we could've approached, even Burley would've been good IMO, he's got a surprisingly good track record. "you never let having a consistent opinion get in the way of a post" - That parts a laugh seeing as that's the only "debate" i've been in on here, i haven't been posting here very long. Burley is a world class manager. End of thread. Don't darken my doors again. You said world class, not me. it was you. don't make me go and find it FFS I said good record. Burley wouldn't be my first choice, first i would approach guys like Hitzfeld and throw money at them, then if they were rejected i would look at promising guys closer to home like Burley who has done well at every club he's been at. I doubt i used the term "world class" as i hate the phrase, it means nothing.

I wasn't talking about him specifically, was i? I said i haven't heard of us attempting to get a really good manager, only guys like Bruce, Allardyce etc. Why am i even bothering? I explained this in thread at the time. I asked you time and again who we should approach and you bottled it because you knew you were talking reactionary opionated utter s**** come on. 'world class managers' I think you said I do recall you couldn't decide whether we don't approach them, or just don't offer them enough money, but then again, you never let having a consistent opinion get in the way of a post There's MANY managers we could've approached, even Burley would've been good IMO, he's got a surprisingly good track record. "you never let having a consistent opinion get in the way of a post" - That parts a laugh seeing as that's the only "debate" i've been in on here, i haven't been posting here very long. Burley is a world class manager. End of thread. Don't darken my doors again. You said world class, not me.

I wasn't talking about him specifically, was i? I said i haven't heard of us attempting to get a really good manager, only guys like Bruce, Allardyce etc. Why am i even bothering? I explained this in thread at the time. I asked you time and again who we should approach and you bottled it because you knew you were talking reactionary opionated utter s**** come on. 'world class managers' I think you said I do recall you couldn't decide whether we don't approach them, or just don't offer them enough money, but then again, you never let having a consistent opinion get in the way of a post There's MANY managers we could've approached, even Burley would've been good IMO, he's got a surprisingly good track record. "you never let having a consistent opinion get in the way of a post" - That parts a laugh seeing as that's the only "debate" i've been in on here, i haven't been posting here very long.

I wasn't talking about him specifically, was i? I said i haven't heard of us attempting to get a really good manager, only guys like Bruce, Allardyce etc. Why am i even bothering? I explained this in thread at the time.

Have you been drinking dipshit? Whatever reason we ended up with him, it doesn't matter. He's not good enough and he needs to f*** off. it does f****** matter if people are going to go off on another Hitzfeld for the Toon fuckfest who's your f****** suggestion then? Go to bed man, Vic. People are pissed off tonight because Newcastle got knocked out the UEFA Cup and they don't need you acting the contrary cockend just to get a reaction. Roeder isn't good enough - that's what people are saying. You're the one talking about Hitzfeld, no one else is. :thup: from the man who says we should have gone for that dutch fuckface, and doesn't get why the f*** he's even at AZ http://www.imgpic.com/gallery/ostrich/ostrich_001.jpg

Have you been drinking dipshit? Whatever reason we ended up with him, it doesn't matter. He's not good enough and he needs to f*** off. it does f****** matter if people are going to go off on another Hitzfeld for the Toon fuckfest who's your f****** suggestion then? Go to bed man, Vic. People are pissed off tonight because Newcastle got knocked out the UEFA Cup and they don't need you acting the contrary cockend just to get a reaction. Roeder isn't good enough - that's what people are saying. You're the one talking about Hitzfeld, no one else is. :thup:

Why were they bringing up the Taylor incident every 5 minutes!?! Last night Chimbonda kicked out at a Braga player, obviously intentional unlike Taylors, and the commentators didn't even mention it.

For me the UEFA Cup was the only thing to justify keeping him on. Madness today, he waited until the 85th minute to make a significant change. Emre wasn't going to change the match was he?!

Who wasn't tonight apart from Given? Bramble? Huntington? Solano? Everyone played shite!

I don't see why he wouldn't be a success, the Bundesliga is probably the most similar league to the premiership in terms of style of play. And when it comes to europe he's a genius.

Bloody good question, on one hand Hitzfeld is one of the best there has ever been, on the other Wenger knows the league and plays good football.

Apparently Berbatov was actually a Newcastle fan as a kid. I assumed it was just bollocks. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/03/10/sfntot10.xml

I agree with all those apart from maybe Tevez and Anelka but that's to do with him being a dick more than his footballing ability.

Just imagine the hype that would surround Martins and Berbatov if they were English, it would be mental. I would say Martins but then i think Rooney is hugely overrated so that isn't saying a great deal.

The season before last he was made first team, but it didn't work out and they chose Adriano over him.

Hell no, Martins got dropped at Inter because he and Adriano didn't work together. Plus he'd be overpriced, overpaid, is incredibly lazy, and enjoys partying FAR too much.

Playing mind games... yet he just manage dutch mid table club ..... mackems.gif... yawn...moronhinho wannabe I think you'll find Mourinho is a Van Gaal wannabe if anything.

What did you expect? He taught Mourinho everything he knows.

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I think Sibberdinho has got to start after all the problems he was causing them before he went off, the Martins-Sib-Dyer triangle has to stay.

We've done alright in europe away from home, i can see us getting a goal or two as long as we don't try to park the bus and play 4-5-1.

I would probably go with the same team as last time to be honest, except i'd play Edgar ahead of Carr at LB(but that's not going to happen). It's tempting to put Emre in as he's perfactly suited for euro football but i don't think he'll be fit enough to be doing all the chasing and closing down they'll have to do.

From what i've heard in the media, around the time of their singings, these guys are apparently on - Parker 55k, Emre 60k, Duff 60k, Martins 45k, Owen 80k-85k. If you were to pay Neill 60k a week then he would be taking up over £3m of our yearly budget, the guy isn't Dani Alves or Sagnol, it just wouldn't be worth it. Also fullbacks are traditionally lower earners than midfielders and forwards so we should really need to pay one that much. And i think 60k is classed as "huge earner" outside the super rich clubs, Spurs have a wage cap of something like 50k and Everton have one of about 40k.

Exactly, those players are getting paid too much and we can't afford yet another huge earner in the squad. Neill had a choice between West Ham and Liverpool and chose the Hammers because their sugar daddy threw big wages at him. There's alot of speculation around how much Owen is getting paid, the figure of 102k came from a football rich list which had Owen earning over £5m a year, so some newspaper divided that number by 52 and came up with 102k. The real number is between 80 and 90k and the rest comes from endorsements etc.

The problem with Neill is he's on something like 60k at West Ham, would you pay him that?