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tell you what, i left BT Sports on the other night and they played the highlights from the vanarama league somethignorother and it looked totally fucking class, some of the goals were outrageously good for the level briefly considered going but i just don't have any connection to any of the teams down there I've started enjoying the EFL highlights on quest much more than MOTD. Premier league bores me silly these days.

Was at the game Sunday. My 1st game of the season and it should have been one of the best aways in a long time as you say. I just couldn't throw myself into it as much as those around me. In the past i'd have felt exhilarated and you'd struggle to get me out the stand at FT. Instead i half heartedly celebrated the winner, couldn't bring myself to sing about being 'the loyalest football supporters' or 'we'll support you ever more' and at FT thought 'Oh well, let's go'. Couldn't quite push the button on cancelling my ST but i just feel anaesthetised to goings on at the club now. Such great results are tempered by thoughts of the pointlessness of it all. We might finish 16th instead of 18th. So what? Tremendous apathy and i hate it.

Aye, seen Phil Neville on MOTD. Says it should be about staying up now before moving on to the next step, but for that to happen we all have to be pulling in the same direction. As if Ashley's blameless and it's the fans fault.

As i won't have my season ticket for the 1st season in decades, i don't know how i'm going to feel once the season starts. I'm apathetic at the minute. Not enthusiastic enough to bother watching them anywhere. I was in Blackpool last weekend and couldn't be arsed to go to Preston, just along the road. But who knows? I might get withdrawal symptoms. Been offered help with away tickets..IF i should want them and it would be my only option IF i wanted to go to a game.

Personally don't see the problem in going to away games while boycotting home games. I'd still go. Ashleys not getting your money that way. Just now i'm not sufficiently interested. Each to their own.

So you're suggesting the ground will sell out but some season ticket holders might not turn up? That may be the case for the Arsenal game but If fewer people own a season ticket in the 1st place then it stands to reason a full SJP is less likely.

Great set up at Hebburn. There's a really comfy upstairs bar overlooking the pitch where you can sit watching the game through the window while you drink if you like.

Bet they'll all have a smug 'Where were you when we were shit?' attitude and think they've been the better fan too. Ignoring the reasons for us staying away in the 1st place. For those on ticket sales watch there'll be the likes of me and my Daughter who are only now cancelling. They'll probably take a few days to show. On the 10 year thing so half of next season paid for already but we're going to settle for cutting our losses. 21 years i've been taking her from her being 3 years old. Breaks my heart. 225 loyalty points between us gone. I had 182 and she had 43.

Who's that then? Just curious. Colchester United, a small team in Essex. Fair play. I was at a friendly at Mansfield last week, (trying to do the 92). I was so jealous of the 2000 or so fans they had. All proudly decked out in club gear, polo shirts etc. Manager posing for selfies with young fans. Supporters liaison people wandering the stand. It was clear the club appreciated it's support. Most of all, those fans could get behind their team with a clear conscience, knowing the people at the top wanted what they wanted. For the club to be the best it can be.

At the moment all i feel towards NUFC is indifference and i hate it being that way.

Who's that then? Just curious.

Dunston, Whickham? Ryton and Crawcrook albion maybe? Dunston play at the highest level of those 3. Do a few games there myself. You could probably both get in for about a tenner.

Where's Seymour? 2 days of constant, against the tide posting then nowt. Has he been on here previous to this 2 days of nonsense? If he's on the wind up it's one of the best I've seen. Mind you there was someone on total sport taking the same line. 'I was there before Ashley blah blah, I love my club and if there was 10k there sitting on toilet seats I'd be one of them.' These people unfortunately do exist. Might have even been Seymour himself.

That win v man city on a bitter Jan night. Do these people not realise it could be like that most weeks if this club was allowed to maximise its potential. When I think of Rafa leaving to be replaced by Bruce the ghost of Bullseyes Jim Bowen enters my head saying 'Come and have a look at what you could've won.' As we dejectedly trudge off with our Steve Bruce tankards with £40 sticking out the top. Showing my age I know like.

Thats what being a supporter is all about man you support through thick and thin. By doing so I've seen good times and bad times. Thick and thin. The rewards of being a fan are thin while some fans are thick.

Calling me a cancer If 45k+ are cancers to the club then why not go to the ground and tell them all that then? Why not do something about it to get rid off these 45k+ cancers? If I felt as strongly as you and I thought boycotting would get rid of him, then I certainly would. Why not do something about the fans going to the ground? What? A picket line in effect. Approach strangers outside of SJP and say 'Hoo yee, i think you're a c*** for going to the game' which probably leads to physical violence in font of a heavy police presence and all on CCTV. Sensible. Aye, why not mate? Why not stop those nasty cancerous supporters from going to the game? Surely if boycotting gets rid off Ashley and those supporters are still going to games then you should be doing something? Why not eh? I don't fancy rolling about with strangers or a criminal record possibly leading to losing my job for a start. I'm sure match going fans read social media etc and are aware of the strength of feeling anyway. As for doing something. I'm trying to get people like yourself to understand the reasons for not going while appreciating that you can make your own choice. I'm giving up my ST after 28 years and binning 180 loyalty points. I've been through some dark days since i started going in the 70s so it's not simply because we're shit as you suggest. It's about self respect. It's a result of feeling under valued, no longer feeling proud or passionate. Something i miss greatly btw. In the past i've had sleepless nights and butterflies before a game, even as recently as last season. Now just apathy.

Calling me a cancer If 45k+ are cancers to the club then why not go to the ground and tell them all that then? Why not do something about it to get rid off these 45k+ cancers? If I felt as strongly as you and I thought boycotting would get rid of him, then I certainly would. Why not do something about the fans going to the ground? What? A picket line in effect. Approach strangers outside of SJP and say 'Hoo yee, i think you're a cunt for going to the game' which probably leads to physical violence in font of a heavy police presence and all on CCTV. Sensible.

Have they never spoken to a season ticket holder before like? Why not go to the ground on match day and say the things that's been said to me to the 45k+ that are attending? Cos yees are too thick to understand. Why not give it a go like? All 45k + of them wrong and should be all ashamed of themselves shouldn't they? Theyre just as bad as Mike Ashley aren't they? I think that might just happen before long. I can see protests outside SJP on a matchday.

And there we go... You don't support a football club because of how good or bad it is, or if it qualifies for Europe or even attempts too for that matter. You support a football club, because its YOUR football club, not because you have a good team or not. To say 'What's what's the point?' I'm sorry but you sound entitled and deluded. Should the majority of fans in the country just stop going then? Time and time again you're confusing staying away due to a perceived lack of ambition with staying away due to not being very good at football. The majority of fans around the country support teams whose owners have the clubs best interests at heart and want to be the best they can be. There's the odd exception of course. I'm envious of clubs with gates of 2000 or so because they can wholeheartedly back their team knowing the whole club is striving for SOMETHING, even it it may not be achieved. So you only support a club because of ambition then? There's plenty of clubs with no ambition out there. The owners (just like ours) may come out with 'we want to win a trophy' 'want to get promoted' etc but a lot off is just bollocks to be honest We aren't the only club with a lack of ambition, there's clubs in worse states than us. Having that said just because other clubs are in worse states doesn't mean we can't be annoyed with how the club is being run I did say there were exceptions. I will say it's pointless supporting a club happy to exist but not better itself. I'm choosing not to renew, well cut my losses seeing as i've paid for half of next season, because i don't feel pride in the club anymore. I'm almost embarrassed to say i'm a NUFC fan. Years ago the 1st things i'd dig out to wear on holiday would be club gear. I'd rather walkabout in a mankini these days. The catalogue of disasters under Ashley has knocked all the passion and enthusiasm out of me. 2 relegations, 2 Joe Kinnears, Mistreating men who love/wanted the best for the club KK, Shearer, Rafa, even Hughton. An endless supply of take over talk that comes to nothing. The lies about wanting to sell the club when he has no desire to do so. Look i'm not even telling you not to go. If you still get something out of it then great. Just try and understand we're not fickle, fair weather fans staying away purely because we're shit. As i've said, if that was the case most of us would have been gone years ago.

And there we go... You don't support a football club because of how good or bad it is, or if it qualifies for Europe or even attempts too for that matter. You support a football club, because its YOUR football club, not because you have a good team or not. To say 'What's what's the point?' I'm sorry but you sound entitled and deluded. Should the majority of fans in the country just stop going then? Time and time again you're confusing staying away due to a perceived lack of ambition with staying away due to not being very good at football. The majority of fans around the country support teams whose owners have the clubs best interests at heart and want to be the best they can be. There's the odd exception of course. I'm envious of clubs with gates of 2000 or so because they can wholeheartedly back their team knowing the whole club is striving for SOMETHING, even it it may not be achieved.

Seymour, you obviously feel very strongly. You've said you enjoy going to the games and that's your choice. I know it's hard to contemplate doing without what you've done for years. I know I'm finding it hard but please understand the reason for staying away isn't anything to do with how we're playing/where we finish. It's the failure to compete in a sport. The whole point of sport is to TRY and be better than the opposition Surely?

Thing is we all care. We wouldn't spend hours on here talking about it if we didn't. I just long for the day we have an owner as passionate.

He put the prices up because he knows he can, yes. Because he knows fans will pay it. Having said that the ticket revenue is a drop in the ocean though when it comes to our revenue, do people think that if we just boycott every game he's going to sell the club? 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? Not sure how people can go that long without going to a game but there you go What are you going for though? What are you supporting? Please don’t say ‘the team’. We are not a competitive sporting institution under Ashley. We aim for no more than survival and are actively prevented by Ashley from having any ambition beyond that. I know what this club can be. I was there during Keegan and Sir Bobby and we are not that club any more. Due to Ashley. Stop enabling him ffs So because we aren't a 'competitve sporting intuition' that means stop going to games? Basically you're saying because we're shit and haven't got a good team unlike when Keegan and Robson was here you're not going to games anymore? Our aim is survival yes, so is half the league. You're sounding completely duluded and entitled to be honest. You'll only turn up if we've got a good team, that's not what's supporting a club is about Howay Seymour man. Until that last quote i've admired your bravery in defending the minority view (on here anyway) but that last sentence? As i said before there's more to it than just being shit. If we try but fail then fair enough, but there is no trying.

He put the prices up because he knows he can, yes. Because he knows fans will pay it. Having said that the ticket revenue is a drop in the ocean though when it comes to our revenue, do people think that if we just boycott every game he's going to sell the club? 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? Not sure how people can go that long without going to a game but there you go To flip the coin, how long can people continue to throw away good money to watch an under achieving, unambitious club? Just putting up with it hoping the storm will pass.

It'all up to the individual. Personally, my passion has dwindled and i no longer see the point in supporting the team on to avoiding relegation or the 4th round of the FA cup. Any moderate success under the current owner will be a freak accident. Hopefully one day i'll be back and if we're ever successful people like Seymour will probably try and throw the 'where were you when we were shit' line at me. If it was about being shit i would have been gone years ago. It's about not trying to be better.