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The money side of the game. Admission prices are off the scale. Premier league games regularly cost £40+. Wages are too high, resulting in players choosing clubs like QPR ahead of a well supported club with a beautiful stadium like ourselves. Not bitter eh? Also this season in general. It's not just what is or isn't happening at the toon. Its things like reading coming back from the dead v WBA, then Southampton coming back from 2 down at Chelsea. Sometimes seems like a conspiracy.

Nattrass was playing when I started going to toon games, but I can't remember how good a player he was. Keeley however, even being so young myself, I picked up on how bad he was from my dad. He seemed to regularly score own goals. Nufc record own goal scorer perhaps?

Calm down man. The league table says otherwise. QPR are more likely to go down because they are 7 pts and an inferior goal difference worse off than us. We may go down, they may survive of course, but they are more likely to go down. As for comparing results, we beat WBA and spurs. Their game at WBA was in the cup anyway. Don't forget we beat QPR too. They've had a bit of a lift, but i wouldn't swap our present positions.

can't blame them for being unhappy since the league changes does render this season utterly pointless Abide by the rules? The rules are that upon winning the league you would move to the league above and play a different set of clubs. The current proposal would mean after gaining promotion they would play largely the same set of clubs i.e not really a promotion. If it happened to us, we would be livid. Whatever you think of them 40,000+ crowds playing basically non league fixtures is admirable from the support perspective. If it's what the majority of Scottish clubs agree on then they have to follow the proposals, no matter how big they are. They aren't the only club in Scotland trying to get promoted and they can't make rules to suit themselves.As for talk of quitting the SFL to join another league, why should that be allowed? A club like St Mirren for example wouldn't be welcomed in England because they haven't got the same commercial pull. I don't think Rangers, 40k gates or not, should be either.

Charles green proposing an alternative league set up. Wish they'd just abide by the rules instead of trying to make the rules.

Booked with Thomas cook. Had a bit of a sleepless night because I thought my 1st payment attempt had failed. Went through the whole process again, only to find out afterwards that I'd double booked. £1600 for 2 of us. Frightening. Managed to dig myself out of it over the phone this morning. Lad on phone reckons we'll fly about 8am weds and straight back after game.

You beat me to that question there. If i can get the Wednesday off work, i'm gonna do the Thomas Cook thing for Kharkiv. Pricey, but compared to the tricky independent travel options, it seems the best way to go. Will there be enough interest to fill the plane though? Anybody on here booked it?

Todays fergie comments sum the arrogance of Man Utd up. Whilst being angry, i take comfort in the hope that neutrals who didn't like them to start with, dislike them even more now. We may be a "wee club", but it's the "wee club" that belongs to me. My local "wee club", not one i've latched onto because of success or stature. I love and am proud of this "wee club". I believe Fergie's realized he was out of order, but in trying to defend himself has dug himself into a deeper hole.

Strange logic at the SOS. Standing is a terrible offence that merits a ban, while pitch invasions,(In Derbies when they manage a goal) are more acceptable.

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20121218/united-to-take-part-in-torneo-di-viareggio_2281670_3013268 There's bound to be stiff competition in that torneo-di-viagra.

Thanks to the Wigan, QPR wins i'm not too worried. We're as close to 9th as we are the bottom 3, with key players to return.

Can't knock his achievements over the years, but he handled himself disgracefully yesterday. Yes, there was controversy that he had a right to air his views on, but at the start of the 2nd half, on the pitch, wasn't the time to air those views. He was standing behind the linesman, mouthing off as the game was going on 2nd half. Blatant intimidation of officials which could have impacted on decisions made from then on. Like all the "big club" bosses, he spits the dummy out when it's not going his way, hence the over-reaction to the Van Persie incident at Swansea. Wenger and Mancini are big whingers too.

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=749043 What about post 20 in that thread. STERLING Albion? Among the most knowledgeable fans in the world are those mackems.

Yeah, playing in europe might affect our chances of qualifying for europe. The last quote sums it up for me. Why concentrate on the league when in doing so, the best we could hope for is to qualify for the Europa again? It's the format of the Europa that is the problem. 1st stage being a group stage instead of just a 2 legged affair.

Another one after Stevenage, Brighton.

Your view might be slightly different, that's up to you to decide where you stand. I'm not sure why fans reactions would annoy you as much as our plight, that seems weird. I'm seeing the team boo-ed off every game. Granted it's frustrating to watch recent non-performances, but that doesn't help one bit. I'm seeing the crowd pouring out 10 mins from the end of games while away fans ridicule us with their "time to go" songs etc. Fickle sums it up. f***ing hell. That's football, it happens at other clubs when they are the s*** creek like we are now. Fans pay good money especially in the difficult economic situation the region is still in so they are entitled to boo the team off especially if they had seen all 3 of those home games where we must have played well for about 20 mins maximum in those 3 games. Sounds like your the fickle one pointing finger at the fans. I can understand the frustration. You can't blame the fans for what's happening on the pitch. All i'm saying is i'm disappointed by how some fans are reacting. As i say, i don't think booing can help a team short on confidence. Fixed my previous "3rd" of the team quote. I was a bit wound up at the time of posting. Out of curiosity, who do those in the Pardew out camp see as a would be replacement?

Your view might be slightly different, that's up to you to decide where you stand. I'm not sure why fans reactions would annoy you as much as our plight, that seems weird. I'm seeing the team boo-ed off every game. Granted it's frustrating to watch recent non-performances, but that doesn't help one bit. I'm seeing the crowd pouring out 10 mins from the end of games while away fans ridicule us with their "time to go" songs etc. Fickle sums it up.

Alright. Your right, i'm wrong. I should know better than to take the alternative view on here. At the minute i'm equally annoyed by the reaction of some fans as the plight of the team.

Absolute tosh! Even with a depleted squad the teams we put out against Swansea, West Ham and Southampton were far superior player-for-player. We had home advantage in two of the three games and remember, the opposition didn't scrape lucky wins, they played us off the park. To further strengthen my argument, take a look at the Maritimo game - we put all of our big guns out and got outplayed by a small-time Portuguese team. I just think calls for his head are a bit knee-jerk in the circumstances. Even the loss of Colo, HBA and Cabaye is bound to play a part. That's about a quarter of the 1st team. I don't think there's a glut of great managers who'd be prepared to take over and work under Ashleys restraints either. Let's weather the storm until we get our 1st X1 back and hopefully he's given the chance to reinforce in Jan'. A bit of stability at the club is what's needed i think.

Shouldn't even be discussing this IMO. He's had the squad disrupted heavily by a revolving door of injured/suspended players of late. He's hopefully realised the obvious in that our squad isn't deep enough, but he can't add to it until January, IF he's allowed to by the owner.

A mackem rang radio Newcastle to say that was the best they had played this season, and that they tore West Brom apart at times. Must have watched a different game to the one i watched. Mignolets howler had me laughing loudly. Still frightening to think that as bad as they've been this season, a win would have put them above us today. Difference is they are struggling with their best 11. I know we're are a decent side with our best 11, and i think we'll turn it around.

Not sure if mentioned but possibly more out in the near future? He said, risking the possibility of doing a "Giggs". http://www.paisleydailyexpress.co.uk/renfrewshire-sport/renfrewshire-football/renfrewshire-football-st-mirren/2012/11/22/saints-sign-pact-with-english-premiership-giants-87085-32282014/

Agree completely. The "your support is fkn s**t" rubbish is bad at any time and, in its self says a lot about our own support. To sing it to fans who've travelled thousands of miles to follow their club is very wrong indeed. Hopefully it can be put down to excitable kids having spent their pocket money on a night out with their mates. After all that, the support they offered to our club was to boo at the final whistle. Granted the performance was terrible, but we achieved our goal of qualification for the next stage with a game to spare. It's about what you do over 5/6 Europa games, not 1 at this stage.

"Full for the concerts!" "Your only full for the concerts" "Full for the con...certs" "Your only full for the concerts" Should maybe be in the "new songs" thread i know, but just something that has came to mind.

Fantastic trip. Knackered today like, after getting off the train from London at 02:15 this morning. Went canny on the drink yesterday to make sure i got on the eurostar back ok. Then went for it once i got through security. Massive walk to the ground which angered previously calm fans. It was obvious they'd taken us the long way. Wasn't as expensive as i expected thankfully. Beautiful place. Just before we left our hotel i put the TV on. There was a report on the toon fans on the Belgian news. The bloke in the yellow jacket was on, along with one or two other familiar faces. "Scud" with his jester hat was on, and they interviewed some geordies with subtitles on the screen.