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Given there s*** history, what about "tetley one cup "tea bags? Won one trophy in their history and got the nerve to sing "have you ever seen the Geordies win a cup?" when they come to St James'. Really hate them with a passion.

True maybe, but it's hard when no one else around you is interested in singing.

But Big Sam employed the same tactics no matter who was in the side! You can't say that Ivan Campo and Fernando Hierro were long ball players at Real Madrid. Or that Jay Jay Okocha, Nicolas Anelka can only play that way, so why didn't the tactics change? Remember you saw us once last season, some of us had to sit through a whole season of it! Aye, and some Bolton "fans" chose not to sit through very many games at all.

Beating Leicester 2-1 away in 91/92 season to avoid relegation to the old 3rd division. Eventful on and off the pitch. They had a chance of promotion, we spoilt the party and their fans didn't like it. There was hell on. We took the lead. They got a late equaliser, then the same bloke put through his own goal for our winner. What a turning point in the clubs' history that day was. The feeling i had at the end of that game was better than the promotion, reaching the Cup final or qualifying for the champions league that have happened since. Sheer ecstasy and a huge relief.

Are they? I didn't know that as I don't pay any interest in Eurostar as a company as I've never needed to use their train. Cheers for that though. Makes sense. Suppose with safc as a forum name you've never really needed a means of travelling in Europe, have you? Superb. That wit of yours really has cracked me up. So what, we've not been in Europe since the 73/74 season but meh, I can handle that plenty of teams haven't been in Europe during that time. Then again Bradford & Millwall have, but European football isn't the be all and end all of football imo No, the Championship is the 'be all and end all' of football isn't it? Edit: *your football, that is. Says the Derby County fan (I don't deny they deserved to get promoted this season), however Derby were a struggling Championship club and probably would have remained one til Billy Davies came in. Derby were going to be like QPR, Burnley and Preston. Seemingly forever in the Championship. You do seem very bitter towards Sunderland, Morph, why is that? I know plenty of Newcastle fans who just enjoy the derby games and laugh when Sunderland lose but aren't particularly bitter, but you do seem to have a real dislike. Seems i've hit a raw nerve talking about Europe. You're right, European football isn't the be all and end all. It is fun though. Believe me. Us toon fans speak from plenty of experience. As for not being bitter towards Derby rivals, you're the one with FTM in your signature. Doesn't that mean f**k the mags? How bitter is that. Sunderland fans sing more songs about the Toon than about their own team. SMB sums it up. You and the smoggies idea of a good season is doing better than Newcastle. I generally think you come across quite unbiased and fair minded on this site. Unfortunately you spoil yourself by quoting FTM.

Are they? I didn't know that as I don't pay any interest in Eurostar as a company as I've never needed to use their train. Cheers for that though. Makes sense. Suppose with safc as a forum name you've never really needed a means of travelling in Europe, have you?

The XL on the West ham shirts must stand for Xempt of Legality after the Tevez affair. Cheating cockney tw*ts.

I currently have a season ticket of my own but have applied for tickets in the family enclosure with the bairn. Anyone know what the average time on the waiting list for this area is? Been on the list for a couple of years now. Don't suppose it's easy to get in as there are so few seats in there. Thought i may have stood a good chance this summer because so many people were disgruntled at the end of last season, threatening to chuck it. Things have changed for the better and most people will now renew i imagine. Think i'll probably need to shell out for seats in an "ordinary" area of the ground if i want to get us seats together.

St Mirren, home and away: http://www.blackandwhitearmy.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=11851 Sorry, not clever enough to show the picture so had to put the link in. Worth a look though. Some of you may be more interested in the models than the strips, but they're nice strips IMO.

Isn't that a strikers job, to score goals?

brian LITTLE, julian DICKS.

I think we'd bring the best out of him, again. Aye. This is his home. lives in glasgow now, doesn't keep up with the toon at all he's a washout, leave him be FFS Still a hero in my eyes. Experienced 2 fantastic periods of watching the Toon while he was here as a player and then manager. Unforgettable.

I've heard that area's around Glasgow, like Motherwell, Wishaw, Falkirk, Largs, Kilmarnock and Ayr have a bigger problem with sectarianism than Glasgow itself and on a match day more incidents occur in these places. Well, they can have all the problems they want, but they're not part of Glasgow, where the majority of Rangers and Celtic fans are from. Motherwell I can speak from experience though, and that's overblown. Will give Wishaw, but then, I wouldn't go down Wishaw any time of day, week or the year. These aren't sectarian problems, behave man. They're social problems, like the rough areas in and around Newcastle and every other city around Britain. What do you thinks happening, sectarian riots or something? Will be random scuffles with two sets of supports, again, like any other city around Britain. You sure most Celtic/Rangers fans come from Glasgow? Are they not the equivalent of Englands Man u/Chelsea for gloryhunting?

Bigots ? Thats an UNDERstatement. Yep, they still sing their IRA songs and wave the irish tricolour. Slimey tossers. Still - I've probably had more friendly chats with the Celtic fans after the game than the other set of Glasgow bigots. Agreed, there are bigots on both sides of the fence....I was a little suprised by SM's reaction to my previous comment .... maybe he has a problem with me or thinks I have with him, if so he is wrong. I've met canny lads on both sides of the divide and its sad that even they get dragged into the religion and bigotry .... and its also true that in my experience very very few fans of both Rangers and Celtic don't drag this s**** into the conversation at some stage. The support for the IRA, UDA etc is appalling. I am pleased these scumbags don't play in the premiership and hope that they never ever drag this bollocks down to England. I don't like NUFC playing them and never have. I agree with the above statements. Both Glasgow clubs bring on the bigot accusations themselves. I personally would rather we didn't have Celtic fans down here. Trying to take over the city with a "We're the biggest and best club in the land, with the best following." attitude.

Well said. He wasn't the man for the job but i can't hate him like some do. This isn't a man who deliberately tried to ruin us but a man who loves the club and genuinely cared. He was just out of his depth that's all. Good luck Glenn.

Boro, for going on and on about the one and only trophy win in their 100 and odd year history. Singing "Have you ever seen the Geordies win a cup?" They should get tetley "one cup" tea bags to sponsor them next season. They go on phone-ins and talk about Newcastle instead of their own club. I hate them and would love to see them go down, though it won't happen this season unfortunately.

Gerraway man. Away games- Stand up. If you don't like, don't go the away games. Go to most away games with "the lads" and happy to stand up. It's just the done thing and never really think of sitting down. Don't know why we stand though. We don't stand at home so why stand away? Are we trying to make the home fans think we're mental and we are mad 'cause we stand up? I take the bairn away to games occasionally. When i do, it would be nice to choose to take her in an area where we could just see the game without having to hold onto her while she stands on a wobbly seat. I think in Germany you've got certain grounds with both terraces and seated areas. That would surely cater for everyone. As for "don't go to away games if you don't like it", why should away grounds be no go areas for kids because they can't see? If the kids don't go to the games now, who's going to go in the future?

Been watching St Mirren a few times a season since 1983. Stayed nearby for about 3 weeks and seen some of their games. Adopted them as my second team. I only go up there when the toon aren't playing and could never be as passionate as i am following NUFC. And before anyone starts with their "there's no such thing as having a 2nd team" rubbish, it seems acceptable enough if that 2nd team is Celtic/Rangers.

Family enclosure is probably best, although don't know how long it'll take for seats to become available. Me and the daughter are on the waiting list. Think i only applied last season mind. Trouble is the area is so small isn't it? Because of the general feeling of unrest among the fans at the moment, maybe some will not renew next season. Then again parents will be under pressure not to disappoint the bairns by taking their s/tickets off them. Suppose some space has to become available each season because once the kids in there reach 16 they have to move elsewhere in the ground.

Him that played Charlie Stubbs in coronation street too. He was once on soccer am and said he's from Gateshead.