Mattoon

He seems to have reverted to type, depends how seriously he takes this game, the only way I can see us setting up entertainingly and getting something from this is if he tries to throw it again and chucks the kids on! If he thinks he can win this now expect another 90 minutes from Gouffran and dire football.

Not that it would bother me so much if it was just the prattlings of some half-wit journalist who gets paid not to research, or even if it clouded the judgement and caused sneers from clueless opposition supporters. What I can stand is the tired old clichés printed over and over again, the world swallows and nods in blind harmony, even our own supporters, who couldn't point out anyone who agrees with the clichés, agree with aplomb! But, oh no, poor old Liverpool, with their deep historical roots, the numba one supafans, how the mouthy have fallen, such horrific defensive football they are forced to endure, they don't deserve that. Geordies?! Pardews where you're at, hands tied, where you belong, yadda, yadda. Boils my piss!

It's disgusting tbh, although it won't be long till Man City break the sequence. It's the bias of the media, hypocrisy at its finest, even with all their money City have never really reached media darling territory, like what they've done is remotely different to Chelski?

Is your team red? Yes - you deserve better! No - Does your team play in London? Yes - You deserve better! No - Deal with it!

Who said anything about changing us into a really good team? It took us time to turn it around but the quality of football on display was night and day. He changed the formation and tactics to suit the players, which is what I was alluding to. Allardyce would have either been close to or taken us down, I have no doubt, it was a risk not worth taking, but as the circumstance was never played out it is what it is, a matter of opinion, you're welcome to yours. That does change the salient point I was trying to make, one man with the right philosophy, ideals and skills can make all the difference. We saw it with Keegan the first time and a lesser extent the second, we saw it with Sir Bobby too. My point being, even in Keegan's second spell, which was as already stated a lesser impact than his first spell, this club is able to do so much more under the right stewardship and should serve those with short memories all the evidence needed to quell the myths we play to the best of our "limited" ability. But of course lets get caught up on the semantics and avoid the actual point being made because I'm just talking "mongey tosh".

I think we were heading that way... We had the easiest start to a season in many a year and were hopeless Maybe not on the precipice but certainly freewheeling towards the cliffs edge if you want to be a pedantic tart about it.

I'm sure we were told he gets a good cut from any transfer fee that we receive. It has been mentioned that's in his contract, which ok, whatever, but don't use it as an excuse for your shit football, plead your hands are tied and pick the greed of your pocket over the success of your business when you know said player won't be replaced. Either that or agree to let them go when someone else is lined up ffs.

There's no need for that, obviously whoring out Sissoko. He does sound like a fucking car salesman he's blatantly listing off his strengths (features and benefits), gets in his age (plenty of years left in this plate) and telling the "big" clubs he's within their price range. Fucking despicable. Oh and he manages to get a Cabaye reference in there too for good measure. Hands are tied, my fuck dick they are, complicit in every way, cunt. Hope someone brings him back a dose of Ebola from the ACON!

Forgot about that, yeah I changed my mind, he's a cunt!

TBF we could all get behind him and there'd still be room in the shade.

I concur, Blobby is a shit player, who fully supports the prick in charge, I don't hate him, I hate Pardew for not getting rid of the useless sack of shit and Ashley for not replacing him. We have a few players who are complete dogshit but they only get in the team because Pardew allows them to! It's not their fault they play and I doubt you would turn down a multi-million pound contract because you couldn't kick a ball 5 yards, if someone was to wave the money in front of you, you'll take it and laugh all the way to the bank. It's clear that brown nosers get far in our club and skill doesn't, that stands at Pardews door and his disgusting way of running(ruining?) a team.

You only have to go back to Keegans last stint before he was shafted to see what he can do for a club. On the precipice of relegation, playing poor football and he turned us around with attacking intent. For those not old enough to remember the Entertainers that should be enough to show how shit the current management team are! One day we will have a Sir Bobby or Keegan to raise the Phoenix from the SJP ashes, it's all there is to hold on to when enduring this regime.

Fine. Love the guy too. So why the dickens were European clubs seemingly so unwilling to invest anything in his signature last summer? Again with this We've seen plenty of players move to 'lesser' clubs in the past, it's no indication of anything and I have no idea why people choose to cite nonsense like this over things they've actually witnessed with their own eyes. I know with my own eyes he's the kind of talented and exciting player I long to have playing for us. I'm asking the question because it's frankly baffling that nobody (including Pardew) wanted him based on what we've all seen, but they clearly have some kind of reasoning behind it and I'd like to know what it is. You say we have seen plenty of players move to 'lesser' clubs, but none that I can remember as skilfull and at such a young age. It's simple, he disagreed with Pardball, hated the ultra defensive hoofball we played, was the only one willing to task Pardew on his gameplan and was despised for it, how dare he question the King?? That's when the muck throwing began, the old adage stays true, you throw enough muck, it sticks. "He's a trouble maker" "he's lazy/doesn't track back" "he damages the harmony in the squad". I've been tarnished with lies, worked my arse off and it still haunts me at work for those higher up that don't know me personally. These things don't go away no matter how many times you prove yourself.

Can't see anything but a Pardew defensive master class followed by a cricket score. Chelsea may not have beat us at home in a while and it might be Mourinho's worst ground but they're going to beast us on the way to the title.

I think we could quite conceivably give him his £18m and still post profits north of £30m. They'll be lost somewhere by being accounted for in wages over the duration of contracts or something. There's no way he'll post substantial operating profits, creative accountancy at its best.

....and the slide doth begin

So who plays on the wing out of Perez, Cisse and Rivière?

Trouble is half our lot get Crayola sets for Xmas and think it's a selection box! They only look up from munching those delicious waxy treats to take a glance at the table or read the latest propaganda about how Pardews hands are tied and they're sucked in. Even if we lost the next 5 or 6 if we were still lower-mid-table we'd be exactly where we've been told we should be/belong. Staunch supporters and those who are old enough to remember Keegan and Robson eras vividly have either long given up on Pardew and Ashley or are too few in number now to be heard. We're the loony toons, the barers of great expectations, we demand challenging for the top 4 every year and regular champions league football. We're the ones that are what is wrong with this club and brave Sir Pardew and his battling troops are doing a hell of a job in such adverse conditions. I've enjoyed the wins, I've celebrated the performances of some top young players, but I've never been under any illusion that this was anything but a blip, even if he wins the next 5 it won't last, it's not sustainable and although gratifying to see us win, the long and short is that it's still joyless and ultimately futile. Even if we put in a great run to put us in the top 3 or 4 we have no aspirations to stay there, what's the point?

If? Surely you meant after? He didn't have a lot of choices for team selection but he chose the wrong ones at every opportunity. Innevitable yet still infuriating. Not following you. I mean starting yesterday if we lose 6 on the bounce what will the reaction be? As you say yesterday looked very much like back to business Pardew so it's very possible we might hit s*** street. Sorry I was being facetious, I meant not if we lose the next 6 but rather AFTER we lose the next 6 which seems more realistic. Even if some of our young players come back I can't see them displacing the old guard easily.

If? Surely you meant after? He didn't have a lot of choices for team selection but he chose the wrong ones at every opportunity. Innevitable yet still infuriating.

Have we not done enough in the last 6 games to dispel the myths now? Players aren't good enough, well they've won 6 in a row against some decent opposition now. We miss Cabaye? We have some young players proving a lot of worth now and Sissoko is proving the player he should be when playing in his rightful position (whoda thunk it?). When we hit our next slump, which is inevitable, surely he's losing places to hide?

Hope.... It's all that's left!

He's not quite on Pardew levels of guff, but 8/10 for pure profound waffle. Interesting to see how the media handle this after how much they stuck up for Pardew. Different kettle of fish when it's a media darling team struggling. Nice work on the SanToon quote

It's this kind of thing that makes you even more angry to watch Ashley wiping his feet on such pride and passion. But I guess it's just a dirty mark on an illustrious history which will one day be confined to the history books.

A friend of mine suggested they'd happily swap Rodgers for Pardew today?!