Doctor Zaius

Bad results all round for us today. WBA, Scum, West Ham all winning.

How do I put a bet on in a betting shop? What do I do? I want to put an accumulator on but ive only ever done it online.

Grant. If they dont get at least 5 points from their next 4 games I think Sullivan and Gold will panic. Hopefully we'll tonk them and that'll be the final nail in the coffin for him.

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Never has a set of fans been shitting themselves so much as these lot. They're bricking it.

We're going to win it like...

That game against Marseille?

So the only difference between us and Chelsea is literally a decent striker? in a nutshell, aye.

For all those that cant remember his Blackburn days, here's his goals and games LEAGUE record. 21 - 16 40 - 31 42 - 34 35 - 31 That record is astonishing and tells you all you need to know tbh. Even in his final season (Having wanted to retire a year earlier) He still scored 10 goals. What would we give for someone alongside Carroll that could score 10 goals this season. The season before that he got 19 goals in all comps, hardly a slog. He didnt go on too long, he went on because the fact is we needed him. We had an injured Michael Owen and Shola Ameobi, you cannot criticize him for "going on too long" when in fact we still needed him, the proof of that was that he was our top scorer every season 00-01 until he retired. .

Cant not have Shearer and Henry for me. No contest between Van Nistlerooy and Shearer. The horses heed was an out and out poacher, yet Shearer still had a better record than him at his peak. Henry was absolutely sublime.

Of course it's not just about goals but Drogba has only ever scored more than 20 league goals in one season (in any league) on 2 occasions. Shearer however has scored 20+ goals in 7 seasons. Shearers goal record is miles better. Got to be Shearer for me.

Not for me but i suppose thats where our opinions differ. If I was a world class footballer, fair enough, you'd have to give it some consideration. However Andy Carroll is not a world class footballer, yes he's a very good player but not world class and wouldnt get into a team challenging for all the honours going. Yes you could leave and maybe pick up a league cup winners medal at spurs, maybe even an FA cup medal however sticking with your home town club and becoming a legend would certainly mean more to me than a few medals. There's no guarantee's he'll stick mind. In fact it would be a rarity, cant think of many good footballers who have stuck at a club not playing good football mind.

Dont understand this like.

I don't see why not. Tottenham are just a better club than Newcastle at this point in time. Better financial position, better on pitch results, better players, better manager, European exposure, and more prestigious. It's an uprward move for a football. I don't think the boys up top will be interested in letting things proceed that far, though. He's a Geordie playing for the club he loves, 1st name on the team sheet and fast becoming a hero to the only fans that will ever matter to him at club level as well as being given the legendary No9 shirt. Not to mention all his friends and family are here as well as his kid. I think you lack basic understanding what it means to him being here and playing for Newcastle and I doubt you will ever fully grasp it either. Man, nonsense. Please take that condescending rubbish elsewhere. Footballers leave their boyhood clubs for greener pastures all of the time. What makes Carroll different from all of these other players? Shearer was here during a different era for the club as well. He came in his mid twenties and the team immediately challenged for the title. When he was nearing the end of his prime (early 30's), the team were in the Champions League. By the time our decline had really set in, the man was nearing retirement. We are not a competitive club right now. If the club's progression doesn't follow the upward trajectory of Carroll's career, he will leave. All of them will. You see it again and again with clubs and their young local players. What exactly makes Newcastle different? If you were Carroll would you leave like? I know I wouldn't.

Opinions are exactly that, opinions. I don't really feel the need to change my view just because hundreds of others on a football forum feel differently, it's all about how each person reads the game and applies that information to the bigger picture. My view on Nolan/Blackpool loss: - was as poor as anyone else on Saturday, can't see a particular reason to single him out for "being s***" and hoping he dies - was part of the same starting XI that did reasonably well in the first 3 matches so it would have been poor management to drop anyone for the Blackpool game - the same midfield that were overrun in the first half began to make inroads in the second half before the subs were made, so the argument that Nolan/Smith were the cause for our defeat seems a bit too simplistic - as a few of the sharper posters have pointed out, we made a similar number of chances against Villa but took those, whereas we failed to against Blackpool and paid for it by conceding on the break at the end. Can anyone honestly say that the Villa and Blackpool results couldn't have gone either way depending on the penalty miss/score? I recognise Nolan's influence in the change of attitude amongst the squad over the past 18months, he's been appointed club captain by Hughton - a man who's judgement I trust and believe in far more readily than the majority on here - and that helps to support the view that he provides a much-needed link between the playing staff and management team. However, having said that, if his performances continue to dip (Villa = good, Wolves = OK, Blackpool = poor) in contrast to other players in the team then his place will be under threat. I don't think chopping and changing every week will help the team or any individual to maintain form and I'm still happy to believe that Blackpool was a collective "bad day at the office"; however, if Everton turns into a hangover, then changes would be on the cards. Must say I agree with that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00tvckq/The_Football_League_Show_2010_2011_Episode_6/ Take a look at Kazenga's goal. Brighton are on after 48Minutes. Some fucking strike like. Good cross for the 2nd too.

I'd find it hard to believe Blackpool seen more of the ball than us. We were camped in their half for the much of the 2nd half.

They'll be brimming with confidence after an inspired draw against Man Utd. Tough fixture, certainly not one you'd earmark at the start of the season as a winnable game. Lose 2-1 I reckon.

Must admit, I dont think Gilks had a stormer. 4 Stand out opportunities which, you absolutely have to put away. Nolan Clean through hit it straight at him, Carroll clean through, took far far too much time, Barton clean through 5 yards out and virtually passed it to him and Carroll's chance, should have struck it earlier and either side of him. Definitely opportunities missed through dire finishing rather than denied through good keeping.

What basis is there that he wont drop Nolan? He's a weak link, why wouldn't he drop him?

What the fucking hell are you talking about? How is Nolan any different? Because he's the captain? So was Butt. Nolan picks the subs? I'd love to know where you've got that one like mate. Seems your just making up shit in order to have a pop at the management.

Out of all the criticism Hughton gets, there's one bit inparticular which enrages me. "He'll not drop Smith/Nolan/Butt/Ameobi etc etc etc" What a load of utter tripe. When has Hughton ever shown a stubbornness when it comes to team selection and sticking with players? Never. It's like people are inventing negative points about him. It went on last season, he wouldn't drop Smith or Butt but he fucking did. Now it's started already; he'll not drop Smith or Nolan. I'd happily put my house on Smith not playing against Everton. Where do people get it from? Never has he shown a refusal to drop under performing players, yet some people continually come out with this shit.

Glass houses regarding Barton really. Cattermole is a billion times worse than barton tbh.

Of course you'd rather have Amdy Faye. At least Faye could pass a ball (albeit sideways and backwards only). At least Faye had some degree of positional sense and actually knew what playing centre midfield was. Smith's fucking lost.

Poor performance. Ridiculous missed chances cost us. Barton and Nolan's in particular, fuck me, you've got to be putting those away. Harper - 7 - Did fairly well, good save in the first half. Perch - 5 - Caught out of position a few times, absolutely useless going forward. Coloccini - 5 - Did okay, very little he could do about both goals. Him and Williamson were split a few times and caught out. Lucky not to be sent off for a stupid tackle Williamson - 4 - Poor. Gave away needless fouls. Someone needs to tell the lad to stop just whacking the ball forward. Whenever he is in possession he just launches it up to Carroll instead of building from the back. Enrique - 5 - Dissapointing today. Got forward but to no real avail. Gave away possession too cheaply. Routledge - 6 - Fairly decent, especially considering he gets no support from Perch. Crainey did nothing but kick him, referee offered him no protection. Still needs to create more. Smith - 1 - Fucking useless in every aspect. Barton - 5 - Poor. Worked hard, sprayed a few passes about. Missed an absolutely criminal chance, absolutely criminal. Jonas - 5 - Lack of end product. Pretty much the same as every other week. Nolan - 3 - Missed two good chances. The first of which, if your playing up front, you must be scoring. It was a simply finish and he fluffed it, an absolute sitter. Ineffective. Carroll - 5 - Another one that missed a great chance. Won his fair share of headers but still should have scored. Lovenkrands - A few decent runs, maybe could have done better with a few chances. Ameobi - Lumbered about for the last 10 or so minutes Ben Arfa - Looked bright. Few decent runs and passes, though at times he had the ball and our players simply weren't making the runs. Hughton - It's easy to criticize for playing Nolan and Smith but I'd have kept the same team considering we were in decent form. Too slow to change it for me, Ben Arfa looked bright, should have put him on instead of Lovenkrands on 65min. He's got no excuses for playing Nolan and Smith now, the test is to see how we bounce back from this. It's a shame because thats a lot of our hard work undone. If we do go down we'll look back on this game and question how we didnt win it. Disgraceful amount of missed chances, two fo which were outrageous. However for me, we still lack someone other than Carroll to score goals