No doubting everything you're saying, it just irks people that he's let himself go the way he has. He could have been a role model for generations to come. I met him twice and chatted to him. First time he was polite and friendly (playing for Rangers), and the second time he was a total fuck-egg (post boro days). Around the parts where I live he's been known to pass out in his own drool in clubs and bars, and that's what he's best known for here.