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McTominay going to end up going for the same price as Gallagher, which is insane to me.

Best this sort of stuff is contained in here, don't you think?

Morning Rod. Hope you're having a good day so far.

Can you leave my thread please.

I'm working mate.

Probably, but I didn't forsee our unprecedented injury crisis. We had the better season though.

We do. City Arsenal Man United Liverpool Newcastle Chelsea Ten Hag wins the Europa League to make it 3 trophies on the bounce and gets sacked the next day.

The trophy streak is in jeopardy. I really don't know if I can go 6 years without a trophy again guys.

Your lists don't include preseason injuries. But yes, we are comparing different shades of shit, just our shit was slightly more stinky.

He won the FA Cup, which is arguably the biggest of the lot.

We've been over this 54. It's all up above.

Correct. Correct, but ours was still worse. That's all I'm saying. I don't want to die on any hill, apart from the one where Isak is the Swedish Martial.

Thank the Lord Sir Jim that this debate is in this thread.

Again, stated above. Multiple times. Yes we have a better squad than you, but we still had a bigger injury crisis. Facts all around.

First of, no we don't. We're in a big PSR pickle ourselves and have been selling young players, just not the value of Minteh or Anderson. But again, as stated above, this isn't about who has the bigger squad or who was better equipped. It's about the facts surrounding injuries.

I'd like to be very clear here, I'm not saying you weren't completely shafted by injuries. Your injuries were brutal, ours were just that little bit worse. We are of course better equipped to deal with them than you, but that isn't the debate. Malacia is essentially cheating in a way, as he was out an entire year but is a second choice player. It's why those lists should be taken with a pinch of salt. The reason we had the worst injury crisis was because of the centre back situation. I'm not twisting facts. That's just true. You were never in a position were Ritchie or Dummett had to start. And the league cup, Howe deliberately played fringe players and kids. That was a choice.

You brought on Paul Dummet 5 times, 4 of those were for 1 minute each when you were winning the game. Paul Dummett was never forced to start a game for you. Likewise, Ritchie made 13 sub appearances, many of those were 1 or 2 minutes. Never forced to start him even once. Rememeber, facts facts facts. Not what you think is true. This was my point mate. You're reinforcing it. Man United and Chelsea had significant, season long injuries before the season started and they weren't included in those lists. So exactly aye, it doesn't matter if they're injured before the season starts, they're still not available to play.

Not my stats to be fair. Also your link, it doesn't include players injured before the season started. Same as the BBC one, so you're not top even at that point, Man United and Chelsea are. And I wouldn't say your season was over. You were 3 points behind us in January and 4 off the European spots.

Miley played the 1200 minutes across the entire Premier League season. It's barely a third of games. Remember please, facts, not opinions.

See above for indisputable facts, all on the BBC website. Cheers.

I am not trolling. We had the worst injury crisis. Newcastle fans seem to think it was them, despite never being down to even third choice in any position. We were on our 7th choice centre back. Most time-loss injuries = Man United (Chelsea were second, Newcastle third) Most individual injuries = Spurs (Man United joint second, Newcastle joint third with Chelsea) Most players out injured in a single week = Man United/Newcastle/Chelsea/Luton all joint first Now to the only metric that Newcastle were clear at the top of, which was days lost to injury. It's there on BBC to see, but if you don't look at it through black and white tinted sunglasses, it clearly states that it doesn't include players who were injured before the season began, so it doesn't include Mainoo, Malacia etc. for us, and it doesn't include Fofana for Chelsea. So, most days lost to injury, if you include players injured from before the season started = Man United (Chelsea second, Newcastle third) Yes, we all know about Tonali. It wasn't an injury. Yes we all know Man United and Chelsea have squads that cost hundreds of quintillions. I mean, didn't you hear Man United paid £89m for Pogba? It doesn't matter and it's not the debate at hand. Man United had, by some way, the worst injury crisis last season and Chelsea were next, not Newcastle. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm only going on facts, but if you want to use something else to justify it that's cool too. It is a forum for sharing opinions.

Ehhh. We can live with this one.

If you don't think we had the worst injury crisis last season you need your head checked like. But I've went over it 10 times already with indisputable facts and don't need to revisit.

So both are worse than they initial reported. Great. Worst injury crisis in the league again this season then. Another Ten Hag miracle required.